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A second Communist revolution in Russia?

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posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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I have, in my searching the web, gotten the impression that many Russians actually miss the USSR. In every election, the Communists have placed a close second, and a recent poll showed the majority of Russians have a favorable opinion of the Soviet era. Statues of Lenin and Stalin are on the rise throughout the country, also. Was wondering if maybe, in their next election, the Communists will make comeback.


As awful as this sounds: the Communists are better for Russia than their current government officials.





posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Ah the glorious Soviet Union. It's funny, because if you take a look at Russia, alot of them are still stuck in their communist roots. I always have to laugh when I go to Russiatoday for news. Take a look at their poll that they have on the side. The answers are always anti-west, and aren't usually "yes" or "no" but rather, there are 4 different opinions you can choose from, generated by the poll creater. Anyways, Russia always seem to lean towards the more socialist ideas, and with Putin becoming Prime Minister after long years in office, he still seems to hold the majority of the power, with Medvedev as his puppet. However, I like the man.

I think Communist Russia will make a return, and to be honest (don't go after me, CIA) it will be good. I think they may be like China. Communist, but with an open market (if that makes sense?) People are finding security in their own Government in Russia as they witness democracy failing in the states. They want to get as far away from the States' path as possible.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 04:47 AM
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I think Communist Russia will make a return, and to be honest ((((((don't go after me, CIA))))))) it will be good.

Ha! Ha! Funniest post ever!!! Freedom of speech illustrated succinctly & poetically.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 04:55 AM
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I do not think that Russians miss Communism (or whatever the name of the system that R.I.P) - they miss Empire. Power, respect, territories - this is why Stalin is popular but Lenin/Trotsky much much less. And if Russian federation will become something else then controlled "democracy" - it will become or monarchy or even fascist state, not communistic anyway. Remnants of Communist ideology exists only in old generations and with poor life span sadly they are dying out very fast.

This is my opinion. However maybe one of Russian/ex-Soviet ATS posters will prove me wrong.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 05:08 AM
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Russia is an autocratic capitalist state. It's not going back to communism.

It doesn't have "communist" roots, it's roots are in fact monarchial.

There was mention in the debate today of Russia being "evil" - I think America is just looking for bad guys again.

Russia is bailing out Iceland's banking system for instance, but that hasn't gained mention.

Social services were statically better under communism in Russia. During Yeltsin's "shock therapy" pensions fell, and other services like health and transport were severely affected.

There's a strong upswell of nationalism in Russia, but it's not communism.

Why, you can even learn judo with Putin.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I do not think that Russians miss Communism (or whatever the name of the system that R.I.P) - they miss Empire. Power, respect, territories - this is why Stalin is popular but Lenin/Trotsky much much less. And if Russian federation will become something else then controlled "democracy" - it will become or monarchy or even fascist state, not communistic anyway. Remnants of Communist ideology exists only in old generations and with poor life span sadly they are dying out very fast.

This is my opinion. However maybe one of Russian/ex-Soviet ATS posters will prove me wrong.


I kind of agree. I think that some of the less appealing aspects of a communist Russia is romanced away as with all nostalgia, those rosy tint glasses filter out the 'not so good' bits.

I also think that, as the Soviet block has fragmented over the years, whilst others laud independence and the break away from the block, others - maybe the Russians themselves - miss the strength that such a union created.

In a cultural climate where many different countries are concerned at the perceived cultural/economic imperialism of America, I think there are definitely some that would like to see that counter-balanced by another potentially dominant power. Whether or not Russia is one of them or not, I think it makes sense that they should be thinking this, on paper at least.

America is in dire straits right now, like many Western countries, and now is the ideal time that, as they say on 4chan, "a challenger appears". I think it can be said that America did similar themselves when Russia fragmented and suffered both militarily and economically over the last few decades. I think it created opportunities for America to have more aggressive foreign policies than they might have otherwise; they saw Russia on the ropes and capitalised on it. I see no different now if Russia did capitalise on the situation.

I'm tired of war and conflict.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by mattguy404
Russia is an autocratic capitalist state. It's not going back to communism.

It doesn't have "communist" roots, it's roots are in fact monarchial.


Compared to 'x amount' of years of previously having a monarchy, I agree in that I'm not sure that Russia's roots are communist.


There was mention in the debate today of Russia being "evil" - I think America is just looking for bad guys again.


I agree, but in the spirit of fairness, I don't think such polarisation is unique to America. Most of the world have their cultural bogeyman in the form of another country.


Russia is bailing out Iceland's banking system for instance, but that hasn't gained mention.


Yes, I'm not seeing much coverage of this either on this board or elsewhere.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 10:09 AM
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I don't understand the American perception that "Russia is evil."
Even Palin has said she would wage war on Russia---what the hell for?



As of the 9 July data, available at the project’s website, 178,881 people voted for Stalin, the total number of the respondents being 1,453,390. The poll is conducted by the Rossia TV channel, Russian Academy of Sciences’s Russian History Institute and the Public Opinion Foundation.

Stalin Holds Lead in Opinion Poll



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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I do think Putin will run a third time, and I do think Russia would kick our ass if we were dumb enough to go to war with them.




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