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reply posted on 10-6-2004 @ 12:54 AM by antipigopolist
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reply posted on 10-6-2004 @ 11:51 AM by cheshire cat
Originally posted by antipigopolist

Also, the
Eltanin antenna is a sponge...not a real antenna.


Is it a sponge? It depends on who you ask. Check out this link.. disc.server.com...
One of the same men who now says it is a sponge, confired with scientists aboard the ship that discovered it and said otherwise.
There are too many coverups. Honestly is a lot better than all of the lies.


reply posted on 15-6-2004 @ 06:41 AM by k33l
Ok now, if, and I say if and only if we were actually able to bend the time-space, or if we found a wormhole accessible enough to even think of doing that (hawkins docet) absolutely nothing would ever happen to the clock. A clock, even if digital, even if it's just a counter of some sort, will NOT, I repeat NOT measure time. The only thing the clock does is move around the hands, or show up some numbers and a date, so that we humans remain faithful to our very own perception o what time is. Time passes itself in very different ways in the universe, ie: the closer you are to a gravity field, the more time passes slowly for you. That said, I hope it is now more clear for us all to understand that clocks are, put rather simply, mechanic instruments that humans need to keep track of the way they, or better said, we, perceive time. So, a weather balloon with a timer/clock passing through a wormhole and going back in time would NOT show the date it went back to, but would keep going as normal, measuring human perception of time with numbers no matter at what speed it's going. Also please note that according to Einstein's Relativity Theorie (hope that it's called like that in English as well) in order to actually 'deform' space (not really sure about the time-space as its whole but I am about the space) you would have to be going faster than lightspeed, in a perfectly straight line and, most importantly, you would have to be in absence of gravity. Also, just to make it clear, the space that would be deformed would not be the space as a whole, but just the space AROUND the object that's travelling, so say, if a train was travelling in space FASTER than lightspeed and in absolute absence of gravity, it would derail, because the space AROUND it (and not in front of it or on the rear of it) would be somwhat distorted. Now Stephen Hawkins says that wormholes are actually all around us, but they're as big as atoms so nothing, or nearly nothing passes through them. Of course I am just a 17 year old with some vivid imagination and extremely poor confidence with physics, but that's pretty much my theorie about why something like that wouldn't happen. Also, please note that I may be extremely wrong and that it possibly could be the way most of you said it is, but that's where my logic took me to.


reply posted on 15-6-2004 @ 06:51 AM by d1k
Originally posted by k33l
Ok now, if, and I say if and only if we were actually able to bend the time-space, or if we found a wormhole accessible enough to even think of doing that (hawkins docet) absolutely nothing would ever happen to the clock. A clock, even if digital, even if it's just a counter of some sort, will NOT, I repeat NOT measure time. The only thing the clock does is move around the hands, or show up some numbers and a date, so that we humans remain faithful to our very own perception o what time is. Time passes itself in very different ways in the universe, ie: the closer you are to a gravity field, the more time passes slowly for you. That said, I hope it is now more clear for us all to understand that clocks are, put rather simply, mechanic instruments that humans need to keep track of the way they, or better said, we, perceive time. So, a weather balloon with a timer/clock passing through a wormhole and going back in time would NOT show the date it went back to, but would keep going as normal, measuring human perception of time with numbers no matter at what speed it's going. Also please note that according to Einstein's Relativity Theorie (hope that it's called like that in English as well) in order to actually 'deform' space (not really sure about the time-space as its whole but I am about the space) you would have to be going faster than lightspeed, in a perfectly straight line and, most importantly, you would have to be in absence of gravity. Also, just to make it clear, the space that would be deformed would not be the space as a whole, but just the space AROUND the object that's travelling, so say, if a train was travelling in space FASTER than lightspeed and in absolute absence of gravity, it would derail, because the space AROUND it (and not in front of it or on the rear of it) would be somwhat distorted. Now Stephen Hawkins says that wormholes are actually all around us, but they're as big as atoms so nothing, or nearly nothing passes through them. Of course I am just a 17 year old with some vivid imagination and extremely poor confidence with physics, but that's pretty much my theorie about why something like that wouldn't happen. Also, please note that I may be extremely wrong and that it possibly could be the way most of you said it is, but that's where my logic took me to.


Actually, there was a factual experiment that when one person stands at the base of a mountain and the other walks up and down it when he gets back to the base the clocks are off. I forget why, it has to do with space time mobo jumbo but its proven that time is altered here on earth and clocks ARE affected. The workings of clocks depend on constant rythims inside them. I forget where I read that but there are a few other known experiments where time is slowed down and clocks are affected. Sorry I dont have a link.



reply posted on 12-7-2007 @ 05:20 AM by Weapon X
Originally posted by justsomeaussie
I think some people are getting their physics confused. Time is directly linked to speed. The faster you go, the slower your time is compared to everything else that is going slower than you. So according to modern physics if an object were to travel at the speed of light its time would stop. However the problem arises is that the faster you go the more energy it takes to get you to that speed.

So for any object other than fundamental particle current theories say nothing can go at the speed of light.


Bingo. You have it in one. It's what's known as Time Dilation.

Effectively, the faster an object travels, the slower time is for said object. As an example - Say you are on a "space shuttle" that can travel at the speed of light. Now, you are on your way to a planet that is 20 Light Years away. Now, since you are travelling at the speed of light, the trip will only take you 20 years (I know, I know, it's twenty years, but let me continue). Now, for you, the trip has taken only 20 years (I SAID HANG ON!!!!! ), because of Time Dilation, 10,000 years have really passed. It's a funny little thing Time Dilation.

And that about sums it up. Theoretically, Time Travel IS possible, but physically, at the moment, we can't do it. Well not that I'm aware of. Basically, the faster you travel, the slower time gets for you.

Oh and as for the two clocks on the planes experiment, that was because of Time Dilation as well. One plane was flying at 10,000 feet, the other at 100,000 feet. The one at 10,000 feet was flying at a slower speed than the one at 100,000 feet, and that is why the clock came back a couple of hundred thousandths of a second slower, because of said Time Dilation.

I hope that makes sense to everyone.
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