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RUSSIA: US Supremacy Eternally Over

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posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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RUSSIA: US Supremacy Eternally Over


www.presstv.com

Medvedev: US supremacy eternally over
Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:04:43 GMT


Medvedev said the US no longer deserved to be 'mega-regulator'.
The US is no longer in the ascendant in the global economy, says Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, urging the formation of a new system.

"The time of domination by one economy and one currency has been consigned to the past once and for all," said Medvedev to the visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel in St Petersburg.


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posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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Medvedev also urged cooperation aimed at creation of a new system which hinged on "multipolarity, supremacy of the law and taking account of mutual interests," apparently dissociating his vision of an ideal economy from what characterized the present economic situation in the US.


What can you expect. Ever dog has its day, especially if that dog makes money out of thin air.

www.presstv.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 3-10-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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omg.. lol...

Now he just said that to shove it in our face.

We aren't down yet. The rest of the world is just trying to have one last laugh at the expense of our dignity before we go down into time, in a technological black-out..



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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Perhaps he needs to control his own country and economy before he starts in on us.
I wouldn't count the US down and out yet. We've been down before and we have bounced back. We will do it again!



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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I don't believe the point is about being down, but rather is about the supremacy of one nation creating havoc by its cruel corporate agenda in this world. Its not really one nation, but its come out of the old school and from primarily the UK as well. Russia, China, India, and other countries are saying no. In a sense its no to nwo as well and its depopulation eugenic program. China and Japan have 65% percent of the worlds population, and 63% of the worlds wealth. (Rough, I may be out a point or two in my memory). August was a significant month. The children were enjoying the last of their summer holidays. Georgia, closely tied to UK and US agenda, commenced bombing on Ossentia, and started genocide, killing those beautiful, happy children. Russia stepped in and got scapegoated by western media and surrounded by a nuclear curtain. Russia and China are contractual signatures to Iran, which is the real goal, and superpowers. This obvious attempt to smear Russia and corner it, then proceed into Iran was an attempt to start WW3, martial law. It failed. But those beautiful children sacrificed during their summer holidays, and all the people's lives destroyed can't be brought back or repaired easily. Now Russia has positioned itself around South America and has demonstrated it capabilities.
The point is that a certain nation, and its extremely bad agendas, are not the center of the universe, and should never have been. Cooperation between nations is required. What is amazing was many of us didn't see it coming, with all the cold war agenda, that Russia is surprisingly being the heros here.



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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Whatever gets you through the night.

The American Empire is coming to a close. It happened to every previous empire, and is destined to happen to the US. About bloody time.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Don't you think that the US should clean things up in their country first before blowing up its own towers to invade Afghanistan. Iraq was invaded because they had nukes (oil), but to present day no nukes are found. Rice said the times since 1956 have changed, a country can't invade an other country and get away with it (Russia&Georgia). Well the financial crisis in the US proves that Rice was right. (US&Iraq&Afghan) But I'm stunned by the fact that Rice who is a Russia expert doesn't know the history of her own country. When US attacked Grenada (operation Urgent Fury) it was almost the same as Georgia Russia.

Medvedev actually IS cleaning things up in his country by helping Ossetia. I don't get why the world thinks its bad what Russia did. West is democratic right? Well, ask Ossetians if they are happy with Russia's interference that saved their lives. Aks Ukrainians (me for instance) if we want to become part of NATO, not our president who is installed by US and was promised a lot of money. Yushenko is most corrupted in our government still the west helps him, even is he's not democratic. 70% of Ukrainians don't want in NATO, still the west pushes Ukraine in NATO. If that is democracy I am a communist. What I think is democracy doesn't exist, except for Denmark.

I wouldn't count down Russia out, when Russia seems at its weakest, it comes out as strongest in the world. Napoleon Genghis Khan and Hitler all experienced it, and look where it got them.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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The point that should really be highlighted here, is that his points about multipolarity, rule of law, and mutual benefits, is exactly what the new financial systems will have to be built on.


This is less the end of the American Empire, and more the time when the world finally realizes the interdependence at play in our markets.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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What ever get you through the night Dave. Keep thinking that America is going down. It's not going to happen. We do not care what Germans or Russians think.

Do us all a favor and take care of what goes on in your country. You have your own problems to deal with. Don't blame America for your problems.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by dave420
Whatever gets you through the night.

The American Empire is coming to a close. It happened to every previous empire, and is destined to happen to the US. About bloody time.


And after all we did for Germany with the Marshell Plan. Tsk, tsk.

You could have had a nice Empire going if you fought harder in 1945!



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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I honestly don't know why you bothered saving the Continentals. I'm a Brit and have been there listening to them and their anti US views, we should have let the ruskies have their way with them Europeans.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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It's a fair comment to be honest, it's about time the world's economy stopped being so dependant on the dollar.

Before anyone says anything about me being ''anti-America'' I'll point out that I love many things about America, it's people, it's inventions, many many things. (government excluded of course)



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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Hey, if we didn't, we wouldn't have the "Faulty Towers" episode about "The Germans"!



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 05:22 AM
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"We do not care what Germans or Russians think."

There, you have it right there, this is EXACTLY the problem. We don't care what anybody else thinks. The United States takes a completely unilateral approach to foreign relations, acting as if no other nation's opinions matters. This is exactly what is so screwed up about this country. We act as if we are the only real country in the world and everyone else is just a bunch of backwater fools who can barely govern themselves.

This would be a fine approach if our actions as a nation were insignificant enough that they didn't effect other nations, but they're not. We are the most culturally-invasive "society" on the planet, and yet the quality of our cultural output is completely banal, pandering to the lowest common denominator of human interests. It would, considering our stance in the world, behoove the United States to start listening to the concerns of other nations, and I would go as far as allowing the people of other nations to vote in our elections. After all, our actions effect the rest of the world to a scandalous and disturbing degree. They should have a say. Call me un-American, a "socialist" or what have you, but I stand by that.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by MillionEyedMask
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"We do not care what Germans or Russians think."

There, you have it right there, this is EXACTLY the problem. We don't care what anybody else thinks. The United States takes a completely unilateral approach to foreign relations, acting as if no other nation's opinions matters. This is exactly what is so screwed up about this country. We act as if we are the only real country in the world and everyone else is just a bunch of backwater fools who can barely govern themselves.

This would be a fine approach if our actions as a nation were insignificant enough that they didn't effect other nations, but they're not. We are the most culturally-invasive "society" on the planet, and yet the quality of our cultural output is completely banal, pandering to the lowest common denominator of human interests. It would, considering our stance in the world, behoove the United States to start listening to the concerns of other nations, and I would go as far as allowing the people of other nations to vote in our elections. After all, our actions effect the rest of the world to a scandalous and disturbing degree. They should have a say.


Speaking as a non-American, you are completely right in that it's the attitude of 'we don't care what the rest of the world thinks' that generates much of the antagonism towards America. I know many Americans are desperate to point out that a lot of what goes on in America's name is actually perpetrated by the government not the people. However, it's when non-Americans see insular, closeted comments like this from American people that we wonder how typical this is.

I know Erasurehead doesn't speak for all non-governmental Americans either. There's a lot of Americans on this board, people I that I have nothing in common with politically, ideologically or even religiously that I respect if only because they also respect me and the rest of the world. They are aware that, ultimately, we're all in this together; the little guy across the world and we all matter.


Call me un-American, a "socialist" or what have you, but I stand by that.


You're not un-American or socialist, you just appear to be a decent human being with open eyes and conscience.


[edit on 16-10-2008 by Merriman Weir]

[edit on 16-10-2008 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead
Don't blame America for your problems.


Except for the Global economic crisis which has ruined tens of millions of lives because of sheer greed on the part of US corporations, financial institutions and people.
How about the other tens of millions of lives lost and ruined in US government warmongering. Also, the countries that have been corrupted and ruined to become US corporate bitches.

I not really anti-US and, i just think that there is a couple of hundred million of you that need to open your eyes, realize what your government is doing and realize why the rest of the world is sick of the US having the power for the last two decades.



We do not care what Germans or Russians think


This is exactly your problem.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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You would go as far as letting people from other countries vote in American elections? You are un-american and a socialist. Why don't we just have a one world govenment to rule over all of us? I am not interested in your global government ideology. I am a nationalist and proud of it.

Merriman weir and Dermo,

I am not interested in your opinion about my country either. I could go on and on about Englands and Irelands problems but I will not because it is not my place to do so.

This gives me a good laugh. All the people bashing America will be the same people begging America for help as soon as something goes wrong. As far as I am concerned the US should no longer send food/medical/military aid around the world and let all other countries fend for themselves during hard times. That way will will see how terrible we really are.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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You, sir, have given me a whole, completely new respect for Americans. You have spoken the absolute truth, without the arrogance or over-patriotism that I have come to expect from Americans in general, and made me feel foolish for expecting it in the first place.

Hopefully your next president will come to terms with you countries mistakes as fully as you have, because that in turn will help make this world a better place.

(And I don't mean to sound like I'm suggesting your country is the only country with problems, but it really is a country that effects the entire globe, as does it's problems.)

As for the actual topic at hand here; I feel that the Russian President is infact correct, and the American Empire is nearing it's end. Soon a new Empire shall emerge, and in time it shall too fall, and so on. According to history, anyway ...



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead
I am not interested in your opinion about my country either.


Im not interested in your lack of interest in my factual observations.

The truth hurts, there's nothing i can do about it.



I could go on and on about ... Irelands problems but I will not because it is not my place to do so.


When a country puts itself in the limelight by using its power for corrupt reasons, you become the object of disdain for those around you.
There's nothing i can do about that either.



As far as I am concerned the US should no longer send food/medical/military aid around the world and let all other countries fend for themselves during hard times


Save a life then take a life.. is that what you believe in?



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