As a resident of the UK, I can not understand what has happened to the universally envied USA idea of what is right and just. You are all being screued royally at every turn, and just happy to discuss it on the Internet. Why, if you are all gun lovin freaks as portrayed by the media, are you not congregating on the streets and demanding that this Administration be jailed ?

This buyout is also going to screw you ALL financially for years to come, so why do you now form an underground movement and appoint an alternative Leader ?

What I despair of is that we agreed to be your unconditional friend, through think and thin, and are now reportedly going to suffer even more degradation of our lifestyle due to your Corporate greed.



[edit on 24-9-2008 by big gee]

I don't blame you -- I wonder the same sometimes. On one hand, a revolution probably isn't going to help things financially, but bending over doesn't do the job either. Most people I know are so leveraged that they just hope to survive with their home, and pray for a time when they don't have to worry about each day.

The current administration has played this very strategically IMO..... just so much and no more. I think a lot of people hold out a perhaps hollow hope that the upcoming election will produce significant beneficial changes. I would guess this: Regardless of who is elected, the American people that think this way are going to be disappointed. We can't eat rhetoric, not even with a tasty dill sauce.

On the up side, I feel that the American people come from stock that has cojones and spirit and resolve, and once the other shoe drops, I think the'll rally back, make things better, reform and start the next cycle of historic repetition.

Cheers

Don't you worry about mine. It's all I can do to walk. And $700 billion dollars? That may seem like a lot to a smaller country, but we'll hardly notice.

You worry about your own country. You have a lot of problems besides keeping an eye on our balls. We still got 'em, and got 'em covered.

Hi There,

My dear fellow Brit, you are in error in your thinking. What is transpiring in America is equally underway here in the UK. The interconnections between our two countries are more than political and military ideologies, but of blood born and blood spilt.

Take a look at our little country, and see the mess it is in...that my dear compatriot has nothing to do with America or Americans, but with Britain and the British. Whatever we can lay at the door of blame on America, we can equally lay ourselves upon the same doorstep. As a nation, we are just as apathetic and insular and indifferent. We are not a shining beacon to the world, but a villified history of rich and poor, master and slave, feasted and famined.

The NWO's origin and focus of power is to be found within that financial edifice on Threadneedle Street. From it stretch the slimy tentacles of economic oppression and free-thinking suppression.

Churchill had a observation regarding our American cousins...' that Americans could be counted on to do the right thing, only after exhausting every other possibility first'. We on the other hand, have only ever done the right thing when told to do so. The difference between our two countries lies in the use of the word 'told'. You do not tell an American to do anything, but appeal to his/her patriotism, we however, are simply following orders. Nuff' said.

Hi Major Dysfunction, I have not been drinking tonight, and resent your implication ! I presented this thread as the way I see things atm between our two Countries / Allies, and perhaps a way forward.

Originally posted by big gee
Hi Major Dysfunction, I have not been drinking tonight, and resent your implication ! I presented this thread as the way I see things atm between our two Countries / Allies, and perhaps a way forward.

I agree, you have a right to be offended by that comment, it was uncalled for.

Originally posted by elysiumfire
The difference between our two countries lies in the use of the word 'told'. You do not tell an American to do anything, but appeal to his/her patriotism, we however, are simply following orders. Nuff' said.

I'm not smart enough to tell if this is meant as an insult but I kind of like it.
especially this part:
"You do not tell an American to do anything, but appeal to his/her patriotism"

I cashed in my 401k, back when it was worth something.
The current situation was brought on by simple fraud, by duplicating fictitious assets to something that on paper is multiple times more than what real assets exist. The so-called bail-out is a way of deciding who really owns the assets and that will go to the big international banks. All the smaller banks that got swindled will disappear.
What we, as Americans will end up with is a big bill.
The election coming up should be decided on by who votes for the bail-out.
We shout vote out every congressman who goes for it.
That is, if there is an election.
It seems that all the politicians are tied into the criminality so are stuck with going along with it and hoping they can ride it out. So, they have the choice of siding with the criminals and expecting to be protected by letting martial law go into effect.

dude, it was english immigrants that fled here from a tyrannical gov't, so what has happened to the UK's balls?

Speaking for myself, a woman raising two kids on her own through all this crap, I'd say, figuratively speaking, considering that I can see the path ahead of me pretty damn clearly, I have what it takes and possess more than a lot of the men.

I'd say those who are truly aware of what is going on around the world (not just in America) understand that for the time being the best thing that can be done is to keep the head low and focus on what is going on in front of you.

The big boys' are distracted at the moment and that is something wise ppl will take advantage of When # hits the fan, those wise ppl will be ready to stand.. when the need arises.