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Originally posted by earthchild
I have always been a scientific person, but after hearing so many stories over the years I became curious why and how, certain people experienced events that seemed so incredibly significant to them.
I fasted and meditated and went through the 'prescribed rituals', and yet nothing happened.
I thought they were all nuts, but in a happy, pleasant way.
So I gave up a loooong time ago, and moved on with life.
Out of the blue, a couple of years ago, I had an NDE, and my life has totally changed.
It was the most intense experiences I have ever had in my life.
I didn't know how to quantify it.., I wasn't expecting this sort of this crap, in my scientific mind the only way I could explain it to others was I that 'I had solved pi'.
Thankfully my family was supportive and didn't have me committed...
My feelings were an overwhelming and incredible wonderful feeling of love, maybe you could discount that as a burst of '___' from the pineal gland.
I felt as though I had experienced an incredibly spiritual experience.
I have never been religious and as a trained scientist, I just don't know how else to explain it.
I suddenly became this wonderfully magnetic person, people have always liked me, but after that it was scary.
I seemed to have the healing powers (I say seemed because I believe the power of healing is within us all).
Even though I felt like I was emminating nothing but love, it was difficult for several reasons.
Life has not been easy since then, harder than ever actually, yet I feel ok about things. Well, I have to, don't I.
When I had my NDE, I felt that I was welcomed home but given a choice.
I was told I had already done what I was supposed to and I was 'home', but I could choose to return to complete another task.
I chose to return.
Thats my perception of events anyway, for what it's worth.
It is a couple of years later now, and I really don't know what to tell you.
Did I just experience the overwhelming feeling of love and connection to the universe, because of of a burst of '___' released at the moment of 'death'?
All I know is that years later the incredibly overwhelming feeling of love I felt at that moment has waned.
But in my heart I know I still have something to do.
I just know.
It isn't something I can quantify or prove to anyone else, it is just something subjective I know in my soul.
I'm not trying to prove antything to anyone, if it makes me happy to think I'm here for a reason then good for me.
I can't give you a reason for being here, only you can.
And yes, I think that answer sucks, I can't offer you proof, wish I could.
Maybe it's all subjective.
I hope you find your answer for yourself, whatever it is.
Originally posted by misuneko
I think sometimes, when we question spirituality we loose the ability to experience it and accept it for what it is on an individual bases.. We dont know yet if we all have the same experiences just like we can prove that food tastes the same or that your perception of Blue is not my Green. Perception of reality of all this is subjective and the same can be said for spirituality.
We all have events in our lives that give us the oppurtunity to think beyond our scientific upbringing and logical minds within the phyiscal, and it is at these times we can allow ourselves to quieten the mind and focus on just the experience within the moments that follow. I guess to question and seek out the whys, whats, hows and whens, for a person trying to grasp the concept of spirituality has missed the point that by doing that. by looking at spirituality from a scientific view point will never get you as an individual into that space for you to create the stillness within for those very questions to be answered.
10000s of people having the same experience has to count for something. If there was nothing to it,the experiences wouldn't be the same,time over and over again. (take the NDE for prime example)
Originally posted by C.C.Benjamin
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
And that's the only place it is, I'm afraid.
There is no spirtuality, and you can't provide a single piece of non-anecdotal evidence to corroborate it.
Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by misuneko
reply to post by Space_Ed
loved your example!
Yeh spiritual aspects of any kind require practice and dedication. until you learn how to do it. Its not as simple as putting A to B and you get C.
But its hard to focus and allow yourself to keep on focusing... Maybe this is why so many people out there frown at aspects of spirituality.. because they give it a good go.. but then give up. Like anything it takes time to learn something and practice. Or they simply dont start trying because there is no proof that anything benifical for them will come of it, only when you can experience the difference yourself first hand what aspects of spirituality does ,can you appreaciate different aspects of your own life and how it improves. And you dont need a science to verify it if you are experiencing the benifests first hand.
Originally posted by Acidtastic
reply to post by earthchild
I'm both fascinated and blown away by the NDE. As so many of the accounts are resoundingly simular. Yes,some have a few things that seem to be down to ones personal beliefs (beings of light appearing as religious figures ect) But the bulk of what happens in each case remains the same. Thank you for posting your account,glad you're hear to tell it!!
As for loosing that loveing felling (woohawhohawhoo) Meditate on love,each deep breath you take just allow yourself to be overwhealmed with love. better than drugs is that one.
Originally posted by misuneko
...If we think about what ancient civilizations were meant to be able to do spiritually...