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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 02:01 AM
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withh all the community and cultural heritage centers created there appears to be only one race that isn't recognised. the white race or arian race. if this trend continues white people will become extinct. any ideas on how to stop this?




posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 02:42 AM
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We white folks are doing pretty good without musuems,s thank you. We are still the majority, for all that really matter,s and many of the displays at your local musuem either feature something to do with white folks or their discoveries.
As for that, which idea of Aryans are you refering to? The historical ones, (protoIranians, eventually spread to Europe) or Hiler's (basically, Nordics. Blonde, blue eues, ect.)
Different groups of white folks have their different musuems. Visited a Czech one with my grandmother. There are plenty dedicated to Ancient Rome and Greece, and a few specialising in Medieval Europe. If you want one specifically for America, however, you can check factory musuems, plantation musuems, railroad musuems, and so on.
Unfortunately, most of those have them monorites in them to, can't seem to keep them out.
(Must be because they did a lot of the work. Humble opinion here.)
Edit: BTW, your not so new, explain why this is about secret societies exactly.

[edit on 19-8-2008 by RuneSpider]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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reply to post by searching scared
 
There is more to being white than having white skin. Little things like culture. I would venture to guess you would know nothing about these things. We celebrate our heritage which is Nordic but don't exclude anyone in the process. Are you for real man or are you a shill as well.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:11 AM
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How about everybody intermarry and create a single race, that way no race "wins."

The "white" race will blend into the other races, and when that happens people will begin to realize that race is not important and never has been.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:49 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


for starters, there is but one race on this planet, the HUMAN race. being black, white, yellow, green etc still qualifies you for acceptance in this race.

now, here's Crakeur's pet peeve for all you "my race is better than your race" people, and this goes for all those who claim their faith is better too. If you want to try and talk superiority, you might want to learn how to spell.

The aryan race will fail if you can't even spell it correctly.




As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Silenceisall
How about everybody intermarry and create a single race, that way no race "wins."

The "white" race will blend into the other races, and when that happens people will begin to realize that race is not important and never has been.



well I think race IS important.
from a certain point of view.

say we wanted to make a super race.

I'd start by mixing the finest traits of each race.
Asian mathematical prowess
Caucasian ingenuity
African rhythm/soul and physicality
Native American connection with nature

mix i up in a batch

there you go.

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 11:52 AM
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Are you saying that each race has different traits or something?

Because if you are saying that then you are being you know what....

Everyone knows there is no difference between "races" or even men and women. Everyone is equal, we are all the same. We are all np different from each other.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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Crakeur made the best points so far! Right on!

I, personally, think that if one concentrated more on making themselves a better human, race (oh, how ignorant that is) would have little to do with it.
I'm Irish-American. Does my heritage predetermine that I'm Catholic, a bricklayer and a reeling drunk? Jeez, I hope not. I'm agnostic, an artist and a predominate non-drinker. Broke that stereotype, didn't I?

This is really something that should be overcome. The focus on skin color is really, really distracting to those of us that try to find good in people.

I, for one, shall disregard this thread for it's pretty obvious attempt at bigotry.

My $.02
Cuhail



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:35 PM
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Awww Crakeur beat me to the punch




I agree that if one wishes to contend racial supremecy over all other races that he/she could at the very least use spell check.


Stupid people make life difficult for EVERY race.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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I'm not saying that there are not observable differences, I am saying that those differences do not amount to very much against our similarties, which lie at a deeper level.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 06:59 PM
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I don't believe there is such thing as a white or black race. Only in the USA do people tag each other like that. I think early European and African Americans in the 1500's and 1600's perverted each others cultural backgrounds into a label of color instead of country. Some of my Step-Fathers family are European immagrants. In my life I have met many Europeans and if you were to call them white they would most likely to beat the hell out of you.

The USA is the mixing bowl of the world. Most "white" people now are mixed with some type of Native American, so if there is a white race they are a very small percentage. Hell I'm 25% Cherokee and I don't look like a Native American at all.

[edit on 19-8-2008 by JoeyVilla]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by prevenge

say we wanted to make a super race.

I'd start by mixing the finest traits of each race.
Asian mathematical prowess
Caucasian ingenuity
African rhythm/soul and physicality
Native American connection with nature

mix i up in a batch

there you go.

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Great, we'll call it stereotyposapian.




[edit on 19-8-2008 by mattguy404]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:09 PM
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Arian isnt a race.

Arian is a denomination of Christianity. It was founded by Arius in the 4th Century A.D. It has unique concepts regarding Jesus and God and their relationship, if Jesus is the actual, literal son of God, or if he was literally God incarnate, that is .. God in the flesh, and not just a divinely sent prophet etc.

Read up on it on Wikipedia. Just type in Arian.

You meant to say ARYAN .. OP .. not Arian. Aryan is the whole "white north german super race" BS ..



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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"White people" will not become extinct. If nothing else, an albino will turn up at some point.

I get really aggravated with people who focus on skin color as though it is some kind of defining feature. I am a mixture of numerous cultures, all with a variety of physical features identified with them. I am 1/4 Sicilian, with some Choctaw, and a variety of other things thrown right on in there.

I wish that I would have inherited the ability to tan that many of my cousins have. However, I guess the Swiss-Irish part of me is pretty dominant. Sucks to be me... It sure looks like fun to go to the beach.


Anyway... I am related to, and descended from, a number of people who do not fit the tidy description of "white person." Why should I be insulted by someone who wants to limit who I am to a "white woman?"

To describe someone's race or culture by skin color alone is ignorant. It completely ignores all of the ethnicities that make up that person, and all of the cultural identities that may exist within their family.

I am extremely proud of who I am, and where I came from. I check the "white" box when I have to fill out stupid applications, but I just wish that there were (a lot) more choices.

Besides, who would be included in your "white people museum?" People who are considered white right now or people who have always been considered white? On a number of old census forms that I have seen, there has been a differentiation between people who were "white" and people who were "Italian."

And by the way, this is coming from someone who you would probably consider to be quite "Aryan"-looking. I am as blonde-haired, blue-eyed and pale as can be, but it took a lot of darker-skinned people to mix together to make me this way.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


The whole "pride" thing baffles me. I don't get how someone can be proud of a physical characteristic that they had absolutely nothing to do with. Like being proud of your height or inseam.

Racial pride, ethnic pride, pride of heritage, it doesn't offend me, I've just never bought into it. I'm all for everyone feeling as good about themselves as they possibly can. Up to the point where it generates some sort of baseless superior attitude over others. I don't care what you were born with or without, show me what you can do with it, or in spite of it.

One of my old favorite sayings, "I don't care how tall your grandpa was, you've still got to do your own growing".



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 05:56 AM
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Hi guys
I couldn't stop myself from disagreeing, for startes I am still trying to figure out what point you guys are trying to prove. Crakeur got the most of it by saying; hi, yeah there is a race made up or all the races of the world; its called the human race, the rest of you are shoked im sure as 'prevenge' was trying to figure out a way of cobining all the races into one super race without even realising the already is one. But wait theres more, some others say that by saying one race is better than another race at something then it is being racist (OMG I said it 'TruthTellist') this is bull **. Every race has traits that are better than other races at and vice verser. By saying this dosn't make you racist it just shows that the race has perfected this trait over time better than another due to their position in the world. Again I find myself confused as some are referencing Wikipidia stating it as fact, odviously not raelising anyone can post an artical on it without having any factual relivance.

Finally I would like to say, YES some of you guys do get it; racism is wrong and should not be tolerated in todays society as the human race as a whole is harming itself. Im not saying world peace is on its way because... well its not. There is still a huge amount of cultural diversity in the world and its not going to go away, this is what makes us human and theres no changing that.

Hopfully one day humanity will get to the point where we are all on one side working togeather as one race, the human race.

Thank you for your time

Peace!!



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by prevenge

well I think race IS important.
from a certain point of view.

say we wanted to make a super race.

I'd start by mixing the finest traits of each race.
Asian mathematical prowess
Caucasian ingenuity
African rhythm/soul and physicality
Native American connection with nature

mix i up in a batch

there you go.

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No offence, but I don't really take to what you're saying here. There's some gross stereotypes at work in your idea of putting together a "super race".

I appreciate your proffering positive stereotypes in that they're all meant to be positive traits - and perhaps, importantly, the idea that all races have positive traits - but a stereotype is a stereotype all the same and stereotypes are one of the main reasons that there's problems between races to begin with.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by Merriman Weir]

[edit on 8-10-2008 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:35 AM
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i don't think anyone has addressed this question in a straight forward manner, but OP, what exactly do you envisage as being included in a "white heritage center"?

there's no point in including "white art", americans call that fine art, as opposed to ethnic or tribal art, and it's federally funded. there's no point in including "white music", americans call that classical music, and it's federally funded. there's little point in including "traditional white costume", americans call that fashion. there's no point in including "white religion", americans call that church, as opposed to native belief systems. there's no point in including prominent "white leaders", americans call that history.

the only aspect of white culture that white people don't already have plenty of attention focused on is probably the darker aspects, and it is often impossible to have another ethnic heritage centre without mention of these aspects, so i'ld say it's all covered.

the other thing is that you say white and aryan as if they were interchangeable, which they are not. do you understand the difference and if you do, do you also believe that non-aryan whites should have their own centre?

EDIT: just as a note, there's nothing wrong with the fact that americans primarily promote white culture, america is primarily of white european origin. it has other elements and it recognises those. i think the balance is quite healthy and normal, japan has quite a japanese slant on cultural events if you follow me.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by pieman]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by searching scared
withh all the community and cultural heritage centers created there appears to be only one race that isn't recognised. the white race or arian race. if this trend continues white people will become extinct. any ideas on how to stop this?


My own diabolical plan centers on the idea of keeping the wifey barefoot and pregnant......(mostly kidding....mostly)

i think racial "heretige" centers are ultimately sort of silly. If you want to be apart of some Cultural heritege group wether it be through Scottish games, or German, or heck just apart of some Western Civilization or Greek philosophical society, that is fine.

However the idea of a White Heritege Center sounds like a magnet ground for would be racial suprimacists, and quite honestly I think you see it in Black Heritege groups as well. If they were white they'd be openly called on their constant racial commentary.

Whatever happened to the notion that man should be judged by character, moral uprightness, and by his merits alone? I kind of liked that message.

Most importantly however I think all such "centers" preach a "victim" mind set. I for one don't want my children to be involved with ANY group that would tell them they are a "victim" for being white. Not even if it were true.....the most dangrous thing you can do to ruin a childs success in this life is tell them theyare in anyway "limited" by anything beyond their ability and will......even if it may have some truth, a child that is taught that will come to use it as a crutch, instead of pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and just "getting it done".

[edit on 8/10/2008 by ForkandSpoon]



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