Originally posted by Vasilis Azoth
Originally posted by Quazga
We need to do something, because the lack of birth rate will be our undoing if we don't.
This thread is a joke right? Or some form of sarcasm that I'm missing?
The world population has been going steadily up for my entire life and I really don't think that is going to change. Humans enjoy sex, there will
always be another generation.
Vas
Nope...
It's the real deal.
You are right... Humans enjoy sex, but educated humans in developed countries enjoy the sex more than the reproduction evidently, because birthrates
in the US and Europe are at historical lows. As a matter of fact,
South
Korea is also suffering from this problem and are creating incentives for would-be mothers.
Here is a
blog post which comments on
this NYTimes article titled "No
Babies?"
This is a cultural problem we are facing. And another poster pointed out, that this is what happens with population cycles in any system.
Which is why, I believe, that it should be a matter of national security.
Here is a quote from the NYTimes article
The spiritual concerns aside, though, the main threats to Europe are economic. Alongside birthrate, the other operative factor in the economic
equation is lifespan. People everywhere are living longer than ever, and lifespan is continuing to increase beyond what was once considered a natural
limit. Policy makers fear that, taken together, these trends forecast a perfect demographic storm. According to a paper by Jonathan Grant and Stijn
Hoorens of the Rand Europe research group: “Demographers and economists foresee that 30 million Europeans of working age will ‘disappear’ by
2050. At the same time, retirement will be lasting decades as the number of people in their 80s and 90s increases dramatically.” The crisis, they
argue, will come from a “triple whammy of increasing demand on the welfare state and health-care systems, with a decline in tax contributions from
an ever-smaller work force.” That is to say, there won’t be enough workers to pay for the pensions of all those long-living retirees. What’s
more, there will be a smaller working-age population compared with other parts of the world; the U.S. Census Bureau’s International Database
projects that in 2025, 42 percent of the people living in India will be 24 or younger, while only 22 percent of Spain’s population will be in that
age group. This, in the wording of a Demographic Fitness Survey by the Adecco Institute, a London-based research group, will result in a “war for
talent.” And the troubles for Europe are magnified by other factors in the existing welfare states of many of its countries. Europeans are used to
early retirement — according to the Adecco survey, only 60 percent of men in France between the ages of 50 and 64 are still working.
Then there is the matter of what kind of society “lowest low” will bring. How will the predominance of one- and two-child families affect family
cohesion, sibling relationships, care for elderly parents? Imagine a society in which family reunions consist of three people, in which nearly all of
a child’s relatives are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. Laviano’s empty streets echo with something strange and seemingly new. As the social
scientists Billari, Kohler and Ortega put it, Europe is entering “an uncharted territory in demographic history.”
[edit on 28-7-2008 by Quazga]