British Airways flight BAW282 flies within 17 miles of Groom Lake

Probably due to odd weather near Las Vegas, BAW282 was routed over the Nellis range. Using the track from flightaware.com, I created a Google Earth KMZ file of the flight.

www.lazygranch.com/google_earth/flight/baw282_07262008.kmz

The flight data comes from

flightaware.com...

The time when it was closest to the base occurred at
01:49AM 37.01 -115.65 532 33000 level Los Angeles Center

The time is in zulu, so it would be 6:49PM, which would still be daylight.

reply to post by gariac


Wow that's pretty interesting stuff. What kind of odd weather were they having in Vegas? Must've been odd indeed for this to happen.

They must have vetted the passenger list before they'd allow for that.

Nellis restricted range:
www.lazygranch.com...
Note that BAW282 cames within 2.4 miles of the restricted airspace around Groom Lake.

Additional nearby flights:

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flightaware.com...

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reply to post by When the Spaceship Lands


Here is the weather alert:

NVZ020-262015-
/O.NEW.KVEF.FA.Y.0049.080726T1818Z-080726T2015Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
1118 AM PDT SAT JUL 26 2008

THE NATL WEATHER SVC IN LAS VEGAS HAS ISSUED A

* FLOOD ADVISORY FOR RAPID RISES IN NORMALLY DRY WASHES IN.
CNTL CLARK COUNTY IN S. NV.

* UNTIL 115 PM PDT.

* AT 1115 AM PDT.NATL WEATHER SVC RADAR INDICATED VERY
HEAVY RAIN FROM A THUNDERSTORM OVER JEAN ALONG INTERSTATE 15.
THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING RAINFALL IN EXCESS OF ONE INCH
IN LESS THAN AN HOUR.MINOR FLOODING & SIGNIFICANT PONDING OF
WATER ON ROADWAYS SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE.JEAN.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY.
THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS SAFELY.
MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

IN DESERT TERRAIN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LOW WATER CROSSINGS WHICH ARE
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS IN HEAVY RAIN. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL ACROSS
FLOODED ROADS. FIND ALTERNATE ROUTES. SEVERAL INCHES OF SWIFTLY
FLOWING WATER CAN CARRY VEHICLES AWAY.

LAT.LON 3585 11540 3584 11523 3571 11528 3572 11541

reply to post by When the Spaceship Lands


Doubtful. It's be easier to just pull everything indoors at the base.

reply to post by DeltaNine


I'm pretty sure this was a rerouting due to weather, so there was no control over who was on the plane. As you can see from my follow up post, quite a few planes flew over the range, but none as close as the British Airways flight.

That was pretty much what I was trying to say.

Hi guys,

Thats sooooo cool. Im suprised they did not have any fighter jets escorting them at least the way through out the restricted zone.

Ok, now...

One question which is a bit out of topic here...

I have a FSX flight simulator and I want to create a file of my flight plan using Google Earth the like the KMZ files of these flight plans. I dont have a GPS device, is there a way I can use the flight plan from flightware and add the waypoint in Google Earth?

Can you tell me how to do this like the files from the OP?

Thx.

This is the message I got:


NVZ020-262015-
/O.NEW.KVEF.FA.Y.0049.080726T1818Z-080726T2015Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
1118 AM PDT SAT JUL 26 2008

THE NATL WEATHER SVC IN LAS VEGAS HAS ISSUED A

* FLOOD ADVISORY FOR RAPID RISES IN NORMALLY DRY WASHES IN.
CNTL CLARK COUNTY IN S. NV.

* UNTIL 115 PM PDT.

* AT 1115 AM PDT.NATL WEATHER SVC RADAR INDICATED VERY
HEAVY RAIN FROM A THUNDERSTORM OVER JEAN ALONG INTERSTATE 15.
THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING RAINFALL IN EXCESS OF ONE INCH
IN LESS THAN AN HOUR.MINOR FLOODING & SIGNIFICANT PONDING OF
WATER ON ROADWAYS SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE A LOCATION THAT DOES NOT EXIST. AND JEAN.

DO NOT FLY YOUR SAUCER INTO AREAS WHERE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY.
THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR SAUCER TO CROSS SAFELY.
MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

IN DESERT TERRAIN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LOW WATER CROSSINGS WHICH ARE
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS IN HEAVY RAIN. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL ACROSS
FLOODED ROADS. FIND ALTERNATE ROUTES. SEVERAL INCHES OF SWIFTLY
FLOWING WATER CAN CARRY EBEs AWAY.

LAT.LON 3585 11540 3584 11523 3571 11528 3572 11541



Sorry.. Couldn't resist!

Scanner audio would be cool for this. I wonder if there was a response or if they just laid low because it was a known aircraft?

reply to post by infocon_delta


I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but I can tell you how I created the KMZ files. Go to the flight aware links and click on the flight for BAW282. Then click on the track log. Copy the data and paste it to wordpad. Import the data into Open Office Calc, delete the columns that are not lat and lon, the save it as a CSV.
gps visualizer
Where it reads "browse", enter the CSV file name. The next browser page will contain the kmz file.

Hi,

Where you say....On the next browser page, Im lost there...
And how should I enter the coordinates? Below each other or next to each other?

Thanks.

Ok, can you really please post me like a TEMPLATE on what to do in the Word Pad and in OpenOffice? I actually use StarOffice, but it makes no difference.

Please???? I would really really appreciate it. Because all I did, is pasted only the coordinates and thats it and when i clicked on the creat KMZ file, it said NO VALID GPS DATA FOUND..

Please post the template for the BAW238 for example without the data and then please explain where to enter the coordinates from there (from your template).

Thx.

Ok, I tried but with no luck at all.
First, I copied from the track log all the data including the time, speed, alt, and of course, the coordinates to Wordpad. Then, I copied and pasted this from Wordpad to StarOffice Calc and then I filered only to show the coordinates like below and saved it as CSV file. Still no valid GPS data found. What am I doing wrong here?

Thats why I need those templates please. Is there any way you can attach a screenshot of both the Wordpad file and the OpenOffice CSV file so I can get an idea?

my CSV file looks like this:

Longitude
33.93 -118.47
33.85 -118.56
33.68 -118.51
33.52 -118.41
33.65 -118.29
33.76 -118.10
33.91 -117.94
34.10 -117.77
34.26 -117.55
34.42 -117.33

Hi all,

Thanks for all your support on this but I think I got it now.

I can do this without using Wordpad first, in other words, getting the data off the flightware tracklog DIRECTLY Excel file and saving it as CSV...then...WALLAAA...it worked...
I tried this with Excel at work...But yet to try it on under StarOffice.

Hi all,

Now...for example, is there any way I can just enter this flight plan onto an Excel sheet like below (instead of entering only the coordinates)???
Is there a way to this?
Well I know how to this by entering only the coordinates. But can I use GPS Visualizer to enter these the way it looks below WITHOUT coordinates?

For example:

Swiss Flight 41

SEBBY4 DAG J100 NORRA J100 BCE J60 IOW

[edit on 31-7-2008 by infocon_delta]

reply to post by infocon_delta


The CSV file should not have a header. Each liine should be delimited by a comma between values of lat and lon.

Regarding displaying flight plans, that would be a project. You need a combination of routes, fixes, and navigaition aid coordinates (vor and ndb)., all which need to be converted into a gpx format route. If that software existed, I would have created the Nellis training routes.

Creating a route isn''t all that difficult with a mapping program., but you need to enter each waypoint. Since I own a Garmin GPS, I make routes with Mapsource.

reply to post by infocon_delta


SEBBY4 DAG J100 NORRA J100 BCE J60 IOW

204.108.4.16..." target="_blank" class="postlink">SEEBY4

DAG=(34.9624569/-116.5781664)

J100 is a jet route. I don't know where to get that information on line.

NORRA = 36-45-33.500N 114-16-51.910W

BCE = (37.6892031/-112.3038875)

IOW = (41.5189578/-91.6132558)

All information from
airnav