Originally posted by riggs2099
Just a thought but maybe if you guys grew some....you wouldn't feel the need to have guns to feel secure. I have always found gun owners to be the biggest cowards there are, take away thier guns and they got nothing. Guess people who can't be man or woman enough on thier own, you would need guns. Like i said just a thought. I don't own a gun and I feel perfectly safe. Keep your guns I say what ever empowers you.

[edit on 27-7-2008 by riggs2099]

Sorry Riggs... but this is not my concept of being a man...or a woman.

Men and women means to me facing difficulties daily in earning their money's...to purchase and manage/purchase their "private properties.
By this I mean going out daily..to work which involves risks...and when they have no choice...no one to rescue them from drudgery and danger in their occupations. When they have people back at home counting on them to do the right thing....when they make themselves disposable and expendable in difficult occupations to take care of their families and earn their properties.

Convenience store cashiers and managers, Farmers, Taxi cab drivers, electricians, Machinists, welders, bank tellers, machine operators, nurses and doctors, truck drivers, etc etc. Ordinary people taking risks in their lives for their money's and hence their families. This is my definition of manhood and womanhood.

Having a gun does not make one more of a man or woman. I cannot understand your reasoning here.

Thinking people who know what is RISK in their daily lives instinctively know the difference. They are not bamboozled by logic and reason like you are wont to promote. Their gun ownership has nothing to do with their manhood or womanhood.

As I stated...your position ,once thought through with this knowledge, does not even make good nonsense.

Thanks,
Orangetom

[edit on 1-9-2008 by orangetom1999]

I'm starting to believe that this guy lives in an area where crime is just something you see on TV. People like this don';t see a need to take measures to protect themselves their environment does not require it. Sadly it is people like this that become the targets of those that wish to separate the elitist from their personal belongings and in the process they will start telling the bad people that they are not a real man because sticking a gun in the home owners nose is just not the manly thing to do. This in turn gets the bad guy wanting o see just how much they can get away with. Maybe make a pass at the wife. Start smacking people around. I mean.What is this person going to do? he is one of those people that believe only a Socialist government should have all the means to go after the bad guy. Sadly it these people you see in the news paper hurt or worse and those like him will go after the gun the bad guy used rather than the bad guy themselves. And start making it harder for law abiding people to protect themselves.

In the real world many of us know that it is not going to be the cops that are going to keep you safe. It's going to be left to you. That is the way the founding fathers understood it and gave us the rights we need to be able to protect your families. It's not about empowering ones ego. It's about taking some personal responsibility. There will always be some that just don't get that and as Americans they are entitled to their opinion and should be able to voice it. Just as it is others to say that they are living on some fantasy world.

With Palosi and the Democrats in Congress pushing hard for extreme licensing of weapons and ammo, this subject should be on the top of the ATS list for a long time. I just hope and pray that more folks read the initial post and realize just what is at stake here.

If they take our weapons or limit our ammo, they in effect, control our ability to take our country back, protect ourselves, our families and our property.

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT ? TYRANNY ? DICTATORSHIP ?

Celente has been right more than he has been wrong on future predictions. He is predicting rioting and possibly civil war breaking out.

Just remember this ..... The POLICE are not here to Serve and Protect .... because they can't. They are there to ARREST and the let the courts and attorney's sort it out later.

[edit on 4/11/2009 by Evisscerator]

Originally posted by BlueOx
Bravo!!!! The government will never be able to ban guns in this country. They can try but I don't believe it will ever happen. I own plenty of guns and the government will have to pry them from my cold dead hands before I ever give them up. If they do end up trying to ban all weapons, this country will be a big bullseye for all other countries to attack. And when this happens how will we defend ourselves. Our military is already stretched thin with fighting two wars! A good movie to watch in reference to why we as Americans have the right to own weapons is "Red Dawn". So if America wants to take my weapons away from me, then all I have to say is see you on the battlefield!!!

I have it on good authority that 80,000 AMERICAN troops returning from Iraq are being currently trained in Georgia, to suppress an AMERICAN uprising predicted.
Note; a .45 ignores flac jackets, and 'terminates' any engine block. I can't afford one, yet, but want to obtain. Also might be useful to obtain the British NEMP device that 'fries' an internal combustion engines' electrical system. Anyone know where I can get one?

[edit on 13-4-2009 by Gregarious]