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Guantánamo's child prisoners came from all over the world: they were Afghan, Yemeni, Saudi, Russian, Uighuri, and Canadian. Five of them are still there. They are: Mohammed el Gharani, aged 14-15 when he was seized while praying in a Karachi mosque; Hassan bin Attash, aged 16-17 when seized in Pakistan, and rendered to Jordan where he endured 16 months of torture before being transferred; Faris Muslim Al Ansari, an Afghan-Yemeni who was 17 when captured; Mohamed Jawad, an Afghan who was 17 when seized and faces trial by military commission; and Omar Khadr.
Originally posted by burdman30ott6
reply to post by evanmontegarde
Andrew Golden & Mitchell Johnson: Aged 11 & 13... Jonesboro, Ar, 1987. The pair shot 13 students & teachers, 5 of whom died.
Dylan Klebold: Age 17... Columbine, Co, 1999. With his friend Eric Harris, Klebold shot 37 students & teachers, killing 13 before committing suicide.
Kip Kinkel: Age 16... Springfield, Or, 1998. Executed his parents then went to his high school, shooting 25 students & teachers, killing 2 of them.
Barry Loukatis: Age 14... Moses Lake, Wa, 1996. Shot his algebra teacher and 2 students to death.
Jeffry Weise: Age 17... Red Lake, Mn, 2005. Shot his grandparents, then went to his high school and killed 7 students & teachers before killing himself.
Michael Carneal: Age 14... Peducah, Ky, 1997. Opened fire on a group of Christian students who were in a prayer circle, hitting 8 of them, 3 of whom died.
Yeah, age is certainly a limiting factor on the definition of the word "threat."
Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
The ones that didn't die . Did they get tortured? Sent to another country. . Or did they receive a fair trail and sent to prison where they could deal with what they did ......... Wasn't that the American way?
Originally posted by sc2099
These people are not children. Childhood ends at puberty, which is usually over at 14. Any person over the age of 4 knows the difference between right and wrong no matter what country they are from. Clearly these young people made their choice and are being treated accordingly. The fact that they would be considered minors in many countries is inconsequential.
Whether or not they are enemy combatants depends on opinion, but it is a fact that they are not children.
[edit on 7/21/2008 by sc2099]
Originally posted by Fathom
if they willingly strap bombs to themselves and/or drop off a backpack/bomb in a crowded train station and if captured they have information on who gave them the explosives...sure torture the hell out of them. If it will save innocent lives, why not torture them?
the life it saves could be yours or your kids....
Originally posted by johnsky
Let the US build a wall around themselves. I don't see why they haven't finished it already.
[edit on 21-7-2008 by johnsky]
Originally posted by projectvxn
Yes, they are children. I'm sorry but do you remember being a teen? Were all of your decisions made entirely by you or were they influenced or coerced? Maybe even forced? If you read the article, these kids were praying not fighting.
Originally posted by sc2099
Teens have the mental capacity of older adults...
Working with colleague Diane Dumas, Dr. Epstein has developed a unique and comprehensive test—the Epstein-Dumas Test of Adultness (EDTA)—that measures 14 different competencies that appear to define adult functioning in modern society. Based on scores obtained from adults and teens, Drs. Epstein and Dumas recently concluded that American teens are, on the average, just as competent as American adults—and that adults greatly underestimate the abilities of our teens. Their research also shows a link between "infantilization"—the extent to which teens are treated like children—and behavioral problems in teens.
1. the time of person's life when they are a child
2. the state of a child between infancy and adolescence