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Originally posted by AshleyD
Absolutely heartbreaking all the way around. Not to mention insane.
1) As someone else said, how do you not question the medicine someone brings you? At the very least, 'What's this?'
2) You would have thought the nurse would have said something to clue the patient in before giving the medicine that would have had such a strong effect. Not just, 'Here's this.' [Essentially].
Originally posted by AshleyD
3) Still, you cannot count on the intelligence of your patients/customers/clients. You have to assume the responsibility. Not everyone is going to ask, 'What's this?
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Agreed the nurse should have made it clear. However lets remember that the nurse is probably in hell right now, consumed by guilt. Can you imagine how a woman would feel to have caused another woman to lose her child?
[K i]Originally posted by AshleyD
I agree. It was a very severe accident and I am sure the nurse is very torn up in this one case. However, I can't imagine her being completely lost because, well, she works in an abortion clinic. It's her job to do such things so she most likely does it on a daily basis. If a typical obstetrics nurse committed such an error, I am sure it would be far, far worse. But in this case, the nurse commits abortions for a living and the patient was in an abortion clinic.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Ok hang on, yes she was working in an abortion clinic but that isn't an excuse for poor work!
i think you're downplaying how she feels out of your own views.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
I think you're trying to foist your opinions on this thread.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
If you think that then yo uare ultimately flawed. It's like saying the man who pulls the switch on death row is less troubled by killing an innocent person. I think you're trying to foist your opinions on this thread.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
Then whats the point of going to see a doctor?
Doctors are supposed to know these kinds of things.
You go to see a doctor about a sore wrist, and he accidently gives you rat posion, its your fault?
I really fail to see any logic in saying that it was the womans fault.
I hope some of you are never on a jury.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Hang on, many patients trust their doctors and nurses and that's how it should be.
We take the idea that they're looking for our best interests as sacrisanct. Doctors take the oath to uphold peoples health and do no harm and i think we should accept that one thing and expect them to uphold it.
The nurse is at fault for not asking the question beforehand, and the clinic is at fault for treating women who want their children and women who don't want their children in the same building.
Originally posted by Griff
You may call me paranoid. But, I do not "trust" anyone except me and my lover. I have a great doctor who I believe has every good interest in his heart, but, come on. If people don't take the initiative to at least take a look at what they are swallowing...I'm sorry...you are too stupid to raise a child anyway IMO.. Do you really think that these doctors/nurses can remember you (though they do an excellent job at it) from Adam? Anymore than your local 7/11 teller remembers you?
Originally posted by GriffYes. We should. But, IMO, we should not just take any old medication either. I'm sorry. If you take mediaction just given to you, you are an idiot in my book. Period.
Originally posted by Griff
Would you just eat any old mushroom given to you by anyone from the wilderness? Same goes with drugs. The prescription drugs could kill you faster. Not just my opinion.
Originally posted by Griff
People need to take their lives back into their own hands IMO. Yes, seek medical guidance, but don't just take any old posion just because your doctor said to.
Originally posted by Griff
This I believe is the probem here. The mix up of "wanted" and "un-wanted" babies in the same room.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Well i wasn't going to raise a child for many reasons, but being stupid wasn't one of them. I would look at anything going into my body, why didn't you read that part of my post? I was saying most people don't and shouldn't have to.
Then i'm not an idiot as i read up on everything ever given to me, short of antibiotics. I just meant peopel shouldn't have to look it up, maybe i'm an idealist.
Originally posted by Griff
Acutally that is your opinion as prescription drugs are tested, mushrooms are not. However i am fully aware of the possibel side effects of many mainstream dugs, i myself have a vendetta against anti depressants. I've enver taken them but the dangers of thema re very clear.
Poison? Look we are talking about a specific case, inside a hospital, where a woman was expecting help with her pregnancy. I think this is more about social compliance. She was expecting help and so took the drug thinking it was helpful.
Agreed, clinics for abortion should never ever have women wanting their children in nearby rooms. It seems absolutely stupid to me. Abortion clinics should be completely seperate.