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Topic started on 18-7-2008 @ 05:02 AM by spacevisitor

For those interested in the subject, here is an in my opinion very interesting interview of once a Moonwalker Dr. Edgar Mitchell.
It is a collection of some different interviews.
Personally I find Dr. Edgar Mitchell a very brave, very respectful and very sincere man, and therefore I am convinced that he tell us the truth.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell & The Pentagon Briefing
Giuliano is presenting the reconstruction of The Pentagon Briefing between dr. Edgar Mitchell and Rear-Admiral Thomas R. Wilson (J2) of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The briefing has happened back in April 1997. During the briefing Wilson has allegedly received code names of the Special Access Projects that are dealing with reverse engineering of the UFO technology.

Source; uforadio.podomatic.com...

After the reconstruction you can hear an extended interview with Dr. Mitchell that was done at June 25th, 2007.
Here is the link,

uforadio.podomatic.com...

Source; Andrew Johnson of the very interesting site www.checktheevidence.co.uk...

Here is Dr. Mitchell on the Larry King show.
Larry King Live Roswell Incident Unmasked

www.youtube.com:80...

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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 06:23 AM by easynow

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hi spacevisitor,

i am still not sure about Mr. Mitchell's true intentions concerning UFO's/aliens and i would love to hear the podcast you are presenting here but i can't get it to play for some reason ?

why would Mr. Mitchell be at a Pentagon briefing that intaled Top Secret information ? what would be his purpose there and did he have a need to know ?

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ok thanks for the utube vid...cleared up the question i had as to why he was there in the first place. obviously he didn't get what he wanted because he didn't have the "need to know"

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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 06:52 AM by secretnasaman

I don't want to spoil your party, but this is ATS and we do debate. I take issue with your comments that Edgar Mitchell is being "truthful". I read in David Sereda's book, "Evidence:A Case for NASA UFOs", about Martyn Stubbs Tether discovery of the Amazing UFO swarm on NASA space footage that is everywhere on google video and YouTube. Sereda and Stubbs got Emails from scientists, including a supportive and enthusiastic, Dr.
Louise Frank, a University prof. and NASA contractor who said that the phenomenon seemed to resemble his "NASA" approved "small Comet Theory" that thousands of "Dull-Glowers, in the form of house-sized comets are falling daily and he has the pics from his NASA Sat. to prove it. NASA backed the photos, saying that there are in fact, "dark spots" in their NASA SAT. photos but they did not back his "theory" of water comets that burn up in the atmosphere, and form clouds that seed the worlds oceans..As well as Dr. Frank, The Tether STS-75 UFO video is also discussed by NASA HQ, in a snail mail letter to Martyn Stubbs, as serious and dangerous "ice and debris, that is being studied by them.. In a letter from Mr.Mitchel, he states that , after watching the NASA "Tether" video, he saw nothing of interest at all in the swarm of Phenomena, whether ice, debris or UFOs and they should drop it!!! He was unconcerned by anything he saw and was saying all of it was nothing to worry about! So which side is this "special" person really on? I believe he has "many" Masters to serve.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 12:20 PM by jritzmann

Originally posted by secretnasaman
after watching the NASA "Tether" video, he saw nothing of interest at all

Why would you find that unusual? That piece of footage you describe is highly controversial, and is often misinterpreted.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 12:35 PM by spacevisitor

Originally posted by easynow
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hi spacevisitor,

i am still not sure about Mr. Mitchell's true intentions concerning UFO's/aliens

Hi easynow, really great avatar you have there, they found it on the moon right?

That you are not sure about Mr. Mitchell's true intentions concerning UFO's/aliens is totally up to you of course and I absolute respect that, but I only display my personal impression of him.
And you know what, by which of the people you know now concerning UFO's/aliens are you 100% sure that you can trust them for the full 100%?

Originally posted by easynow
and i would love to hear the podcast you are presenting here but i can't get it to play for some reason ?

I don’t understand why you can’t play it, I have first downloaded it and it works perfectly.

Originally posted by easynow
why would Mr. Mitchell be at a Pentagon briefing that intaled Top Secret information ? what would be his purpose there and did he have a need to know?

Sorry, but I can’t give you a solid answer on those questions.
He sits very close to the fire so to speak as you also know, he has no doubt his private sources and therefore knows a great deal of certain facts already.
But perhaps he is in some way also chosen to receive certain specific information with the intention that he is allowed to ventilate it publicly in relation with the ongoing disclosure?
But that is just a guess, nothing more.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 01:01 PM by spacevisitor

Originally posted by secretnasaman
I don't want to spoil your party,

Hi secret nasa man, you don’t spoil the party because this isn’t a party.

Originally posted by secretnasaman
In a letter from Mr.Mitchel, he states that, after watching the NASA "Tether" video, he saw nothing of interest at all in the swarm of Phenomena, whether ice, debris or UFOs and they should drop it!!! He was unconcerned by anything he saw and was saying all of it was nothing to worry about! So which side is this "special" person really on? I believe he has "many" Masters to serve.

Well, I see not what he said wrong in my opinion, and therefore don’t understand why you make that last remark?

I see all those videos of Martyn Stubbs and have my own impressions about that footage, but I can’t proof therefore that it is the right impression.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 01:14 PM by kidflash2008

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UFO Hunters did an episode where they tested a theory that the NASA UFOs could be ice crystals in the windows. It turns out the were able to duplicate the effect, giving a possible down to earth reason for the UFOs.
The late Colonel Gordon Cooper wrote a good book called "Leap of Faith" and he has similar stories of persons telling him they uncovered bodies at Roswell. It is a very good book and highly recommended.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 01:50 PM by secretnasaman

My point was not about what the tether video shows. It was that Mitchel did not even think it controversial or important or worth study, yet he runs around saying UFO reports are important to him and shows up on this months Larry King Live as a "Roswell" backer who thinks the CNN officially appointed debunker, Seattle comedian/actor Bill Nye is a jerk. But when it comes to the STS-75 "tether" event, why he is certain it's a non UFO event, a non event or even safety issue...hello! There are no special people who are always experts of truth telling! Especially not diaper wearing, sometimes drunk Astronauts, who won't say a thing cuz they want to stay with the space program..

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 01:55 PM by easynow

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thanks for your reply,

by which of the people you know now concerning UFO's/aliens are you 100% sure that you can trust them for the full 100%?

the answer to that question is unfortunately ZERO

i can understand why Mitchell seems sincere and credible to many people and i want to believe that he is telling us the real deal about all of this. the problem i have is he is only going on second hand stories and he has major ties to the D.O.D. in way's that make his personal conclusions questionable.

he served on an advisory board for the D.O.D. and has many investments in some of those projects and in Bigelow aerospace. so with all the supposed disinfo that the goverment puts out to hide secret projects i don't see how he could not be a part of that also.

But perhaps he is in some way also chosen to receive certain specific information with the intention that he is allowed to ventilate it publicly in relation with the ongoing disclosure?

you maybe right ???? or he may be a dis-info specialist ???

i have to speculate that if he is involved with goverment defense projects he might be helping them and his own investments by continuing a policy of coverup that has been going on for decades.

Don't get me wrong here...i am not trying to debunk or discredit Mr. Mitchell in any way. i have to examine all sides of this to maybe understand what is going on and like i said before i really want to believe he is being honest and sincere with all of us.

just to add here that ...searching for info about Mitchell's ties to the D.o.D. seem to be hard to find and it is my guess that someone is covering up his tracks as far as that goes. just my observation.

gonna give you a star and a flag because this is very interesting. thanks

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 01:59 PM by spacevisitor

Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by spacevisitor

UFO Hunters did an episode where they tested a theory that the NASA UFOs could be ice crystals in the windows. It turns out the were able to duplicate the effect, giving a possible down to earth reason for the UFOs.

Hi kidflash2008, it is in my opinion impossible that it where ice crystals in the windows or near the windows because you see objects clearly flying behind the tether.
You even see some objects change there direction in some way.
But if people still asume that these objects where made of ice it must have been space flying icebergs.

Originally posted by kidflash2008
The late Colonel Gordon Cooper wrote a good book called "Leap of Faith" and he has similar stories of persons telling him they uncovered bodies at Roswell. It is a very good book and highly recommended.

I have that book "Leap of Faith" translated in Dutch in my possession, called “Getuige in de Ruimte” but I didn’t reed it yet.
Thanks.

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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 02:03 PM by secretnasaman

I agree that these are not all ice and remind myself of the shelf life of ice in space with all that solar radiation.

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 03:28 PM by secretnasaman

David Sereda writes in his book "Evidence:The Case for NASA UFOs", the following...
" I wrote Dr. Mitchell in Oct. 1999...he gave me his address and I sent him the video. Martyn and I shared a profound moment...we thought that Edgar Mitchell would be so impressed with what he saw, that he would want...to discuss the release of the material to the world. On Nov.24, 1999 Edgar Mitchell wrote..."I received your film and reviewed it. I see utterly nothing about the tether incident that is particularly interesting....I have looked at many feet of space film, and I have yet to see one that has anything worth looking into regarding UFO appearances". I could not accept that such a great proponent of UFOs was so adamantly against the suggestion that these giant circles passing behind the tethered satellite were UFOs. He was shrugging off the most astounding piece of video ever witnessed of UFOs in the history of the space program. I couldn't believe it...when I shared the news with my partner (Stubbs), ...I shared the thought, that Edgar Mitchell might be an insider to the UFO movement sent by NASA to protect them from any possible implications of real UFOs...while he and NASA both knew why he was really inside the UFO movement: search and destroy all real evidence and also inform NASA of what they may be up against and give them time to prepare.Well, that was the end of Edgar Mitchell in my investigation...Edgar Mitchell was not really interested in helping to expose the fact that these objects were behaving like spacecraft rather than particles."

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 03:54 PM by Jeremy_Vaeni

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Maybe he wrote that because he is an astronaut who knows how to look at footage and David Sereda is not worth mentioning twice in a sentence.

Mitchell has been studying this stuff (and remote viewing, psychic abilities, etc.) longer than some of us have been alive. It's not like he just came out of retirement to do some Larry King shows now. Plus, HE WAS AN ASTRONAUT!

reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 04:00 PM by kidflash2008

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That is why I stated "possible" explanation. I tend to go toward the ice crystal theory because they actually recreated it and the video they made looks just like the NASA footage. It is up to other people to watch and decide for themselves. Mitchell didn't say anything important on Larry King anyways. He just stated second hand stories, nothing he himself observed. I want them to interview people who actually SAW something, not someone who "has a story to tell".

reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 06:42 AM by spacevisitor

Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by spacevisitor

I tend to go toward the ice crystal theory

How do you explain the ice crystal theory when you clearly see objects flying behind the tether and cable at a distance of some 80 nautical miles from the space shuttle?
How big do you think those “ice crystals” must be then when you compare the size of the objects who flying behind it in relation with the length of the tether and cable [12 mile long] they must be as I said before huge ice bergs.

YouTube Link

Originally posted by kidflash2008
because they actually recreated it and the video they made looks just like the NASA footage.

Can you provide me that information?

Originally posted by kidflash2008
It is up to other people to watch and decide for themselves.

Listen carefully to what the astronaut is saying; there is a little bit of debris that is flying with us.
Can you imagine that he said it is flying with us, while the distance to the tether is some 80 nautical miles away from the space shuttle?

YouTube Link

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reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 01:41 PM by secretnasaman

Great video and all these nay sayers only inspire us to re post a link! My eyes have seen not ice crystals, but a darn good mystery for study!

reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 01:52 PM by philjwolf

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you mean.. you actually believe that aliens traveling in space just had to see that teather that we have up there.. i saw that video.. and there must of been hundreds of those things flying around.. wowww.. they are easily amused..

reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 02:03 PM by secretnasaman

Those were ice particles swarming the tether, and that is very good video for the ice crystal and particles Dept. at NASA. UFOs, what UFOs?

reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 02:34 PM by spacevisitor

Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by spacevisitor

you mean.. you actually believe that aliens traveling in space just had to see that teather that we have up there.

you mean.. do you actually believe that it are ice particles with the size of an iceberg then up there?

Originally posted by philjwolf
. i saw that video.. and there must of been hundreds of those things flying around.. wowww.. they are easily amused..

I am indeed amused.

reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 03:17 PM by kidflash2008

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Good catch on the video. The UFO Hunters episode just recreated the ice crystal effect, not the tether. I don't remember them pulsating much either. I am not afraid to admit it when I am wrong!

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