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Not Till The Fat Lady Sings

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posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:06 PM
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Well it looks like maybe the Fat Lady has not started singing after all.

Yes, Yes, I know it is a very long shot, still it bears watching.


She may have given up, but a few of Hillary Rodham Clinton ’s people haven’t.

But there are Clinton supporters clinging to the hope that if her name is placed in nomination and the roll call of the states is conducted, she might — might — still win.

Heidi Li Feldman, a Georgetown University law professor, insists there’s still “no way of predicting” the outcome should there be a fair vote. That’s because Obama has not secured enough pledged delegates to ensure the magic number of 2,118 needed to claim victory;

“If they had a meaningful vote, I have no idea who would win,” Feldman says. “But I know that if Sen. Obama were sure he would win, there wouldn’t be a negotiation” about Clinton’s role at the convention.

CQ politics

You know what?

I may have to watch the Democrat Convention after all...

Should be fun..

Semper




posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:19 PM
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lol.

It just never ends


The more and more and more time i've invested into clinton, mccain, and obama, the more and more sick and tired of the whole thing i'm starting to get.

It happens every election year


Around Sept. usually - i say "OMG" just get it over with.

My guess is around september, we'll see a shift in the republican party...who knows, maybe "ron paul makes a comeback" or something. one thing i've noticed however

it doesnt matter which candidate starts strongest
it'll always shift direction nearer the end.

The good thing for John McCain is that he's had all this time while obama and clinton fought, and now he has more time while Obama fends off the garbage.

But i hope he's using his time wisely and preparing for any and all things possible


Beacuse come september, i feel there's gona be a mighty...mighty big bombshell



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:44 PM
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Her and Bill might whack Obama and take over the world.Im sure they want to.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:54 PM
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im courious about this bomb shell. anyways.


i was thinking over the weekend.

what if obama opt's to have clinton as a vice president?

would this seal the deal for the democrats?

i for one dont think that would be his choice, and i have to wonder if clintons pride would allow her to accept the offer if it were made.

more than likely it would draw most of her support to his cause. i guess we will just have to wait and see.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:56 PM
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An Obama Clinton ticket would be powerful indeed...

Semper



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 12:01 AM
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talking about makeing history. our first black president and female vice president all at the same time.


i was listening to talk radio on a six hour trip to AL and they were talking about a large number of hiliary supporters defecting to McCain just so they could vote aginst him. thats what made me think of it. wonder if anyone else has more imput on this...



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble
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i was listening to talk radio on a six hour trip to AL and they were talking about a large number of hiliary supporters defecting to McCain just so they could vote aginst him. thats what made me think of it. wonder if anyone else has more imput on this...


I think some Hillary supporters have gone to McCain, but many if not most have remained with the Democratic party.

Clinton's supporters may be wishing for a last-minute victory, but Hillary herself has graciously conceded and asked them to go with Obama. She's even attended some campaign events with him. I don't think she has any illusions of a miraculous intervention, but she probably wouldn't refuse if it should happen.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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Does anyone know how Hillary voted on FISA? I know Obama is taking a pounding for reversing his stance on that, curious how Clinton voted.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:03 AM
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I believe she voted against it. I'm not sure why Obama reversed his original position; many of his supporters are disappointed.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 07:36 AM
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I found this statement from Hillary on FISA..


Hillary Clinton has finally taken a public stand on the upcoming FISA legislation. Unlike Barack Obama, she's voting against it:

its ability to serve as a meaningful check on the President's power is debatable. The clearest example of this is the limited power given to the FISA Court to review the government's targeting and minimization procedures.

But the legislation has other significant shortcomings. The legislation makes no meaningful change to the immunity provisions

Washington Monthly

Apparently she voted "NO"


HR 6304: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2008
S Amdt 5064: Striking Telecom Immunity from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance


Senator Hillary Clinton voted NO
Read statements Senator Clinton made in this general time period.

Project Vote Smart

Well that is something

Semper



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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Thanks for the follow up. You too sestias.

Color me surprised, I just gained a little respect for Hillary. I guess Obama is showing his true colors.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 08:17 AM
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good point. im not sure what % may defect but i have heard from a few sources on both the republican and democrat side that a fair number of clinton supporters were bitter.

is it enough to make a huge diffrence? well that i dont really know and i dont think any of us really will until the election.

which as mr andrew wiggin put it, "OMG just get it over with."

at this point i agree. i could use a 4 year break from all this political hoop la. and the mud slinging..

edit to add:

i think the hopes on a last minute victory is quite a moot point. however i have been wrong many times in the past...


[edit on 15amu82007 by DaleGribble]



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 08:27 AM
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i could use a 4 year break from all this political hoop la. and the mud slinging..


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You have not seen anything if McCain gets elected....


First will come the cries of "STOLEN ELECTION"

Then VOTER FRAUD

Then Incompetence

Then Criminal Behavior

Then War Mongering

It is just the Liberal Play book....

It never changes

Semper



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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good point but one can have their dreams.

right?

well it would be even worse if obama gets into office. i dont even want to think about it. id rather listen to all the liberal complaints than have to put up with him for four years...



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:41 AM
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Geeze, between Hilary and Farve, we've got two people who just can't accept reality.

The game over!!! Both of you!!!

You both need to shut up and go away.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 06:32 AM
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Let Clinton do everything in her power... its all in good show...


I don't know how anyone can be upset with McCain as president...

In this election cylce, the 'republicans' have screwed things so badly the last 8 years, that this election HAS to swing to the left.

Well, the dems swung WAY left, and the Republican party is choosing a classical liberial in John McCain.

So we have an election against a clasic left-liberal, and a Far Left-Socialist...


The country is going to swing to the left... just not that far...




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