Why they hate AMERICA

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
your precisley the reason they hate us, i dont need to say any more.
Those insurgents your killing, were once family men.

you take their life like its just another thing..

.... thing is but, when they finally get you and hold your head up high, i doubt half as many would mourne that loss, compared to how many mourne the ones you murder!

your fighting for the thrill, a paycheque and because a corporation tells you to.
he's fighting because its his home.

First thing you do need to know, and others have probably noticed this, is that spell check is your friend. People (me included, unfortunately) tend to blow off someone when they have things not spelled correctly.

You're = you are ("You're an ass-clown")

your = possessive ("your country")

Now, down to the brass tacks.

I don't kill for a paycheck, or for a thrill, or because some "big corporation" tells me to. Obviously, you've never been in any branch of the military and you don't have a single clue about the subject. Until that happens, why not stick to something you know, and leave the "combat" stuff to the guys that have actually been engaged, K?

"Get me and hold my head up high?" Are you talking about how the insurgents like to behead their prisoners? First of all, ain't gonna happen. They try to roll me up, it's like they took on the freakin' Tasmanian Devil. And I'll always make sure I'll leave two rounds for myself (you know, in case I flinch with the first one!) because it seems like the insurgents have this habit of ignoring the Geneva Convention (which 99% of the people on ATS whine about the US not following) and torturing and executing their prisoners.

Insurgents seem to get some cheap thrills attacking "hard" targets, like markets filled with women and children. I really don't see how that's trying to "set themselves free of their oppressors".

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Great P.O.V sir,

When you break it down to the least common denominatuer, the overall global hate of America as relates to your thread is basically recognized as the face of one group of people -- The Caucasian American Male.

Please understand... I say this not be a racist. I say this to educate people out of their "cloud of denial" and take a good look at "the truth."

America is very very good at passing the buck... Ducking in our churches... and liying to it's people. For all who didn't know, that's what a conspiracy theory is... and the guilty finger has always been pointed at those dapper Ministers of.... "I want to control the world at all cost, because we are forever right and you are forever wrong!"

America's BS gallop & propoganda polls often try to generalize or include other races in the mix of hated Americans by the outside world... WHY?? because this is how White American leaders and the M.I.C. have allways justified their actions... but the face shows otherwise.

Americans with no clue of understanding the deep impact of this phenomenon always say.. "Well I didn't personally do anything to anyone... I'm a God loving humanitarian for Gods sakes...??"

Remember they have TV's and internet too... and just like the American propaganda machine against them... their negative spin on the U.S. is spinning loud and clear.

Here is a simple test for those who don't get what I am saying --- "Show me a picture in American history where Blacks are proudly standing around a white person hung from a tree??"

FACT: America's military power is the face of white politicans, white generals, & white bully's that continuously bring world hate upon America. You cannot separated the murder from the muderers or Hilter from Germany... they are one in the same!

Remember, victims never forget a FACE! If you don't believe me ask the Jews?

THEY HATE AMERICA......

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GOOD STUFF AND THEY DON'T.

AND YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH CALLING PEOPLE MORONS AND THEY DON'T SHOOT YOU......

SEE,

IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE SOME ONE STARTED TO BLAME THIS ON THE WHITE MAN......

I'M SORRY, HOW MUCH DID WE GIVE AWAY IN DONATIONS EVERY YEAR???

www.aafrc.org.../tsunamigifts.html

CHARITABLE GIVING RISES 5 PERCENT TO NEARLY $250 BILLION IN 2004
Tsunami gifts less than one-half of 1 percent of total
Estimated charitable giving reached $248.52 billion for 2004, a new record for philanthropic giving in the United States, the Giving USA Foundation announced today. The new Giving USA report released today is the 50th anniversary edition of the yearbook of philanthropy. Giving USA is published by the Giving USA Foundation and researched and written at the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University.

THATS' WHY THEY HATE US. BECAUSE FOR ALL WE HAVE AND ALL WE DO TO TRY AND BRING FREEDOM AND IDEALS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.

WE ARE THE MOST GENEROUS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

THATS WHY THEY HATE US.

BECAUSE LIKE TONY THE TIGER SAYS, WE'RE GREAT!!!!!!

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT....

Why They Hate America....

You may want to check this out too....

www.slate.com...

Here's a little more about how much $$$ is giving to causes here in America and around the world.

This is why the big bad USA is hated by these losers....

Mod Edit: All Caps Post.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by MemoryShock]

reply to post by Agit8dChop


You stereotype my country all day long, mate..

So I was just wondering, are all Australians as nearsighted and bigoted as you are?

Just wondering..

Would you be mad if I made a thread with a hundred pictures depicting the racism and exploitations of Australia?

Or how about some nasty photos of Australian troops in Iraq?

Cuz, case you forgot, mate, your country is there to.

But just to clarify, I don't believe the entire country can possibly be as ignorant as you are..

Originally posted by tomfrusso
SEE,

I'M SORRY, HOW MUCH DID WE GIVE AWAY IN DONATIONS EVERY YEAR???

Donations?? Please!

Just modern day trojan horses to passify, infiltrate, blackball and dominate helpless countries for our devious intentions.

There is no real love, the agenda is smokescreen through the back door. This evidence is so overwelming even a 2 year old understands this... But, now the world has figured out America's master scam and things ain't gonna be so easy...

reply to post by Rockpuck


Your yet to actually explain why im ignorant...

And, im not Australian.. Mate!
And even If I was.. I dont agree with half the crap going on here either...
What, because im agianst the American government I must be happy and glad for every other misgiving in the world?

And once again, ive never said '' all americans ''

some people need to read posts before they accuse, and act hypocritical.





[edit on 2-7-2008 by Agit8dChop]

reply to post by jerico65


Spelling?

c'mon, is that where this is going?

your farking kid'n me

didnt know i had to pass a checklist before you bother to read... ill try harder!

secondly,

every country tortures, your a niave fool to believe otherwise.
just because you dont hear about it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

also,

dropping bombs from 20,000 feet isnt a cheap thrill hey?

plus,

Im pretty sure those market bombings, beheadings etc etc occured AFTER WE WENT IN and made it a lawless country.

So, your not there for the cheap thrill or paycheque.
exactly why did you join up?
Was it to fight the evil terrorists in Iraq?.. or was it Saudi?... christ i cant remember any more... you just do what your told right?

That innocent mother/child on the ground with a hole in her head.. .she just got in the way.. right?

The difference between you and them,

is your fighting because your told to.
You earn money for it.
you shoot first ask questions later

them?
they fight because they have no money or family left.
they fight because a foreign power invaded, murdered their leader, setup shop... and dictates to them.

im sure he'd rather be home with his wife and children... instead he cries for them at the cemtery...

in saying that.. there's bad a$$ mothers who do torture and behead in Iraq..this I do not doubt, and they do deserve a swift judgement.
... but justice fails when people blame them.. because its us who provoked!

Originally posted by tomfrusso
WE ARE THE MOST GENEROUS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

Were..

pitty youve spent more than tripple that destroying another country.

reply to post by tomfrusso


America - "Wrap the donation money in wool blankets laced with Yellow fever, Aids, Tyfoid, West Nile, & Athelete's groin and when the last man drops.... steal their oil!... cause we are a God loving nation of givers....."

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Spelling?

c'mon, is that where this is going?

your farking kid'n me

didnt know i had to pass a checklist before you bother to read... ill try harder!

secondly,

every country tortures, your a niave fool to believe otherwise.
just because you dont hear about it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

also,

dropping bombs from 20,000 feet isnt a cheap thrill hey?

plus,

Im pretty sure those market bombings, beheadings etc etc occured AFTER WE WENT IN and made it a lawless country.
............

Well, if you want to look ignorant by not writing a coherant sentence, knock yourself out.

Funny how the US is to blame for everything going on over there. Not like any of Saddam's buddies upset since their power has been taken away.

And Saddam and his sons were doing a fair amount of torture while they were in charge. Or are you just going to blame that on the US, too.

And if the US was just "shooting first and asking questions later", there would be a lot more dead civilians. Instead, the troops have to run any sort of engagement up the chain of command to get approval for a strike.

Once again, if you had a tiny bit of military experience, you might just know that. Instead, it's just someone flipping out over something they don't understand.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by jerico65]

Originally posted by Level X
America - "Wrap the donation money in wool blankets laced with Yellow fever, Aids, Tyfoid, West Nile, & Athelete's groin and when the last man drops.... steal their oil!... cause we are a God loving nation of givers....."

Oh, really? We've been spreading these diseases? I do know that the US spends a fair amount of money on vaccinations used in poor countries. Must have slipped your mind.

And do you think that any other country out there have given aid without some sort of string attached?? Like when the Soviet Union was giving out aid and AK47s in Africa in the 1970's?

Only in American can you spend hundreds of billions of dollars on bombs, troops, barracks, ships and propaganda to destroy a country...


... yet still blame them!


I never deny saddam and his sons were torturing people, they were.. and it was bad.
That must speak volumes being Iraqi's now prefer Saddam's days, to what we've created for them!
Also, like I said, every country tortures.... even the good ones!

And fair enough, maybe they dont shoot first and ask questions later, I apologise for that.

but they do plant weapons and objects to make it look like insurgents, dont they?
There's many reports of innocent people being killed in bomb strikes too, and while all of them arent true, im certain the US has killed 10's of thousands of innocent people, some be it accidently, some be it in retaliation...

regardless, we were never meant to go in, and lied to get that far.. there fore 1 single death should be considered 1st degree murder on the US governments part.

Chain of command?

.. where was that in Abu Grahib? Haidtha?

Does blackwater need to call up chain of command?

As I believe it, there's more US CONTRACTORS in Iraq than military?...

How does it look for Iraqi's, seeing someone paid more money than they'd recieve in a lifetime, to shoot at them in their own backyards resisting a foreign occupier?

reply to post by jerico65


fair enough too, The US does help out alot with this stuff.
donations, aid, vaccinations..

but that doesnt excuse mass crimes.

And as I recall, the US offered minimal donations for the tsunami case, it wasnt until world leaders publically criticised the effort from the US that they started pulling the wait of a real superpower.

Your even saying it yourself, the US can be great, can be the world leader we love and respected... but your wasting 80% of your focus on destroying Iraq and pillaging it.. imagine what you could be, and how loved/admired you could be if you focused that on HELPING the world?

reply to post by jerico65


You mean Bill and Melinda Gates have spent loads of their own money on vaccinating people in other countries...?

Lots of US public money doing same, I don't think so...A little, maybe...

The huge majority is private money...Which proves nothing of the US and its people as far as generosity to overseas nations go...

You guys can all bash each other but it won't make a difference. America is hated whether you like it or not. I personally love America, I have cousins and relatives in America. People don't hate America because they are jealous of your freedom, or your cellphones, or your porn, or your bars, or your egotistic people. America is hated because they invaded Iraq for no good reasons.
You go to war for oil companies. Don't believe me?

Why did US attack Iraq to get Saddam? Here is a hint:
It was not for the WMD's, nor was it for democracy. Heck, if Bush even cared about democracy he would have invaded Zimbabwe. Why do you think big oil corporations made billions from the UN's food for oil program.

Here is what Larry Chin wrote:

"Since its creation in 1996, US oil companies have used the UN Oil for Food Program as a means to steal billions of dollars of Iraqi oil and reap significant profits. Through the exploitation of this program (in which Iraq has been forced to sell its oil at below-international market price in exchange for humanitarian aid) US companies such as ChevronTexaco, Exxon-Mobil, BP-Amoco, Valero, Clark and Marathon-Ashland have made billions from this scheme for years."

The US leaders are big snakes. US citizens are doing nothing about the outrage that is Halliburton, CACI, Blackwater and many other companies.
You, as US citizens are being ripped off and you seem like you do not care.

America is hated because they do not listen to what the Iraqi's really want. I bet you any amount of money, if you go up to any Iraqi and ask him what life was better now or then, the Iraqi would respond then.

Iraqi's get abused by the military everyday. Yet you expect them to stand there with open arms, with chai ready and with food for the military.

The best thing about Saddam was he opened a lot of schools, agriculture, other plants and such to stop Iraq's reliance on oil.

The reason he went to war with Kuwait is because they had a slant pipeline into Iraqi oil. He was told by April Glaspie, the ambassador to Iraq, Middle Eastern business was not their concern. Which he thought was a green light.

For the people who think every country in the world is under developed except for US, I got news for you. Iraq actually has awesome cell phones.
Here is a little article from MobileTracker:

USA Today reports on the hottest new industry in Iraq--cell phones. Despite tough conditions, cellular phones are selling faster than business owners can import them. Everything from dime-a-dozen Nokia's to high-end Samsung camera phones are selling.
Source

A lot of people from the US have no knowledge about other countries. They think Iraq is one big desert, and Canadians live in igloos. They think American women are only hot. Well where do you think those women come from? They come from every continent.




[edit on 2-7-2008 by Equinox99]

Originally posted by tomfrusso
SEE,

WE ARE THE MOST GENEROUS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

THATS WHY THEY HATE US.

BECAUSE LIKE TONY THE TIGER SAYS, WE'RE GREAT!!!!!!

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT....

Sir, It should read more like this...

WE ARE THE MOST MURDEROUS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

THAT'S WHY THEY LOVE US.

BECAUSE LIKE TONY BLAIR & GEORGE "THE TIGER" BUSH SAYS, WE'RE GREAT!!!!!!!

NOW... WHY SHOULD THEY PUT THAT IN THEIR PIPE AND SMOKE IT??....

Originally posted by jerico65

Oh, really? We've been spreading these diseases? I do know that the US spends a fair amount of money on vaccinations used in poor countries. Must have slipped your mind.

How do you explain a hundred 6-12 year old virgins contracting Aids when the only thing inserted in her body was a needle of American made vaccine?? There are labs growing powerful strains of disease's as we speak and when PETA cry's foul... impoverished humans in remote corners of the world are the new crash test dummies. Short story.. the Christian missionaries are put in place to down play this to the world, often reporting sexually active adult women as the victims.

And do you think that any other country out there have given aid without some sort of string attached?? Like when the Soviet Union was giving out aid and AK47s in Africa in the 1970's?

True... there is some sort of barter... but... that barter doesn't warrant an occupying force murdering the population does it? There are bad intentions all over the globe... but why is America is always the hypocritical ring leader??