The whole NWO thing makes me wonder; I see people crying about bush this, bush that. Don't the liberals want NWO.

liberals want the USA to be a world member not a leader.

they want no religion.

socialism.


These are just my thoughts...I could be wrong. I just had a revelation. I have been reading about what the NWO wants and will try to do. It really sounds a lot like what far left people want.

If this is true than bush is anti NWO..I think.

If Bush was anti-NWO, (granted there is a NWO) then he would not be a member of Skull and Bones....John Kerry coincidentally is also a member. Being a member of one of the most elite secret societies definately does not make you anti-NWO.

Originally posted by ignorance is plentyfull
The whole NWO thing makes me wonder; I see people crying about bush this, bush that. Don't the liberals want NWO.

liberals want the USA to be a world member not a leader.

they want no religion.

socialism.


These are just my thoughts...I could be wrong. I just had a revelation. I have been reading about what the NWO wants and will try to do. It really sounds a lot like what far left people want.

If this is true than bush is anti NWO..I think.

Actually it was the bush family that coined the phrase. Liberal, conserative, democrtat, republican, these threms don't mean anything. It just goes to show how warped they really have us.

not sure which bush we are talking about, but isn't pres. bush's father gbush sr. in the NWO? He made many statements etc with the words New World Order mentioned.

Originally posted by ignorance is plentyfull
they want no religion.
socialism.
If this is true than bush is anti NWO..I think.

I think that he pro-NWO, as you may know that he has attacked Afghanistan, then Iraq.

There are documents made by the Neo-conservatives that wants America to shape the world in its image.

The Bush family is pro-NWO and they are wealthy oil company owners.

Originally posted by Dreamz
If Bush was anti-NWO, (granted there is a NWO) then he would not be a member of Skull and Bones....John Kerry coincidentally is also a member. Being a member of one of the most elite secret societies definately does not make you anti-NWO.

Do you have proof that hes a member of skull and bones?

Yes there is proof of this. Antony Sutten published the Skull and Bones Yale catalog in his book,
"America's secret Establishment: The Order of The Skull and Bones." You should look in to it .

How do u people know Bush is a member or the skull and bones?

ignorance is plentyfull~~I have come to believe that we have two parties in this country and both answer to the same master.
Depending on the Agenda, either Bush or Kerry could win. Voting MAY be controlled with our "new and better" voting system.
I really don't know what difference it makes who wins. They both do not have the country's best interest in their hearts! Who ever wins will continue to lead America further down its downward spiral!!!!

The more you read the more you will come to distrust what you see in the papers and TV about the govt!!!

First off, The likelyhood of there even being an NWO is slim that I don't really consider it a possibility.

No religion? You must be talking about seperation of church and state.

Socialism? Socialism is pretty much dead here in America buddy.

Originally posted by MrJingles
First off, The likelyhood of there even being an NWO is slim that I don't really consider it a possibility.

New World Order was used in speeches by Bush, the Daddy. I remember, because it was the first time I heard the phrase.
Soon after I heard Bush say it, I remember a TV minister saying iNOW was evil and would hasten the end of the world.

How do u people know Bush is a member or the skull and bones?

Both Bush and Kerry are admitted members of Skull and Bones. Tim Russert has even teased them about it on "Meet The Press". He asked John Kerry if he (Kerry) could let us in on a few secrets. Kerry laughed, and replied that he would let us in on something that's not a secret, and that's that Bush's policies are bankrupting America.
They were not members at the same time. It is a Yale college fratenity opened to seniors only (when Bush and Kerry were members, it was male only; in the early '90's, it went co-ed).
When Bush was initiated, Kerry had already graduated, and was serving in Vietnam.

I find it pretty cooincidental that out of 800 living Bonesmen, something like 400 are active in politics and 2 are vieing for the Presidency,

Does anyone else either feel it was weird that Howard Dean, Libberman, Kerry, and Bush all were at Yale around the same 5 year timespan?

If that is not an elitist institution, I dont know what is.

And for those who say Skull and Bones is just a Fraternal Boys Club, here are some of the main families

Main Families in Skull & Bones :
(A) Whitney Family (1635, Watertown, Mass.)
(B) Perkins Family (1631, Boston, Mass.)
(C) Phelps Family (1630, Dorchester, Mass.)
(D) Bundy Family (1635, Boston, Mass.)
(E) Taft Family (1679, Braintree, Mass.)
(F) Wadsworth Family (1632, Newton, Mass.)
(G) Lord Family (1635, Cambridge, Mass.)
(H) Gilman Family (1638, Hingham, Mass.)
(I) Harriman Family (Railroads)
(J) Rockefeller Family (Standard Oil)
(K) Payne Family (Standard Oil)
(L) Davison Family (J.P. Morgan)
(M) Weyerhaeuser Family (Lumber)
(N) Pillsbury Family (Flour Milling)
(O) Sloane Family (Retail)

Also,
Russell Family (one of the founder of S&B)
Bush Family (several generations)

Originally posted by Chronic7
How do u people know Bush is a member or the skull and bones?

He said it his self on Meet the press and in his auto-biography. What's funny is those are not the exerts that you see on the 10 o'clock news.

I find it pretty cooincidental that out of 800 living Bonesmen, something like 400 are active in politics and 2 are vieing for the Presidency

I think 800 is probably a pretty low estimate. Each year, a new class of seniors are admitted, and the number per year was raised when they voted to allow female students in. Taking all this into consideration, the number of living Bonesmen and Boneswomen probably number into at least the thousands.
As for being active in politics, I don't find that very surprising. But not necesarily because of their fraternity...Yale and Harvard have produced thousands of politicians, apparently due to the quality of their law schools.
It is my understanding that Skull and Bones only admits those with outstanding academic achievement, with only a few exceptions (one of these being Bush Jr...I remember reading somewhere that he graduated with a C minus average, so obviously his daddy pulled some strings). But, regardless, most Bones members are academics, so it is not surprising they would succeed in their fields.

Fiat Lvx.

Originally posted by Masonic Light

It is my understanding that Skull and Bones only admits those with outstanding academic achievement, with only a few exceptions (one of these being Bush Jr...I remember reading somewhere that he graduated with a C minus average, so obviously his daddy pulled some strings). But, regardless, most Bones members are academics, so it is not surprising they would succeed in their fields.

Fiat Lvx.

Also, your family line has a lot to do with your admission. Bush is at least the 3rd generation Bonesman.
And if you believe Daivd Icke, a lot of these people are vaguely related to way back when.

Originally posted by mrmulder
You can clearly see both Bush and Kerry admit that they were part of that society. Then what makes me mad is they start laughing about like "I'm not going to tell you what we do in that group. That's a secret."

Oh, I know. So smug and arrogant, both of them.

There was a young woman of, I think, FoxNews last night. She was in some "other" (unnamed) secret society at Harvard.
She says basically, oh, yeah, it's a secret, but they not up to anything devious. Like the ceremonies and rituals mean absolutely nothing.
She did mention that there was some old stuff there. What she failed to mention that one of those old things is, allegedly, Geronimo's stolen skull.
I imagine they let her come forward to give a sanitized version of the truth. S&B has really been on the media's tongue a whole lot lately

Does anyone find it odd that all of a sudden we are hearing about S&B?????