Illuminati, Roswell, 33 and 2012

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posted on May, 20 2008 @ 01:29 PM
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Dear Readers,

The New World order has a plan, and a timeframe in all that it does. And seeing many of us realise that aliens (demons) have to be an integral part of this take over, do consider the following.

For below, is an excellent, excellent hyperlink, you should really read in detail. It connects up why Roswell was not an accident, but a planned introduction, and sacrifice flagging both of an important date in time, 1947 and an important date for the arrival of the A.C. in 2012.

But do be warned you will have to study and learn some MATH, and the Lord's GEOMETRY, before you can piece together this truth, which is confirmed in the Lord's timelines and frequencies and dates.

The dark side knowing its time is at hand, when they take full control in 2012, and therefore preparing its people for their take over. But the more IMPORTANT fact is that this syncronizes with what the Lord has told us about the dating of prophecy and how He has told us to prepare for His Coming three and a half years afterwards.

I'll put our hyperlinks in as a means of you, personnally confirming these truths. But for clarity sake HERE, I will just copy and paste some of the more prominent and important sentences of David Fylnn's article for you to consider (in red) ....taken from

www.illuminati-news.com...

And as background David Flynn wrote or co-wrote the Watchers website..

www.mt.net... ...Again an excellent source of some material, even though its taking Dave a while to see the 2012 date as the time of the A.C.'s rule in the NWO as its dictatorial leader. So HERE we go... even though you should read the whole article in its entirety, but I will draw out a few of the numeric prophetic dates.

This secret has been hidden in their symbolism and numerology throughout history.

"In Freemasonry is embedded the core or the secret heart of the occult mysteries, wrapped up on number, metaphor and symbol ..." The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom, Benjamin Creme p. 87

"Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony ... spiritually as well as physically ... to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers ..." The Occult Power of Numbers, W. Wynn Westcott , p. 15

...in Spiritual Numerology, '33' symbolizes the highest spiritual conscious attainable by the human being." The Secret of the Illuminati, Elizabeth van Buren, p. 161-2 (End of excerpt I wrote in an introduction of this article by David Flynn....)

So let's now discuss it logically and systemimatically via the science of design and exact numbers. This way we can avoid, mere emotions and rhetoric.

Hoping to hear from you.

Davidjayjordan




posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Part Two.... or the original POST, continued on like this...

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SEE corealtions with the Lord's number 33 and this exact hertz frequency, as the devil always counterfeits and tries to take the credit.. But 33 is the NUMBER of importance.

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/Absolute33. html

This because knowledge is power, and the fallen angelic beings stole these mathematical truths from the Lord, and used them for evil not for good. The knowledge wasn't evil, but the application for greed and power was !!

"According to the science of Angelology, the angelic mind grasps every mathematical and scientific concept in the universe. It is not outside the Angelic repertoire to take concern with mankind or to interact with it. They also know man's religious numbers and symbolism... in Phoenicia, they were the teachers of these concepts. They were the sons' of God that descended to Mt. Hermon.

But the messengers of Mt. Hermon were not morally aligned with the God of the Bible. On the contrary, they were aligned with the god that "illuminates" the mind of man"

So make note, that the latitudes of the Earth and places and cities and events are by DESIGN, not by accident.

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/GeographyMy steries.html

Consequently after you have figured this out, then when David Flynn writes about the location of where the demon aitrcraft crashed exactly, and its latitude you will understand, that it was by DESIGN.

And that its date of 1947 was by design, for it is in that year one month later, that the 50 year jubilee cycle of the end started. It is in that year, that our NATION of the END TIME was born with the birth of our End Time King David. This is why I started the Time Line of the End in 1947.

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/ProphecyTim eLines.html SEE also the confirming timelines that all mesh perfectly.

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/Timelineoft heEnd.html

1948 and the unilateral declaration of the worldly Israel was not the start of the End Time, but 1947 when the start of Christian believing spiritual Israel was born.

For even 1776, was not a random year, that Americans decided to unite. It was by DESIGN in the Lord's allowed flow of history. For He was the truth, and yet He must allow the counterfeit to rule and reign before He comes again.

888 is the sum of the letters in Greek of the name Jesus (each Greek letter represents a number). A second "messiah" (888) plus the first messiah (888) = 1776.

America's founding date, 1776 is a number representing a 2nd messiah or the "king" of the World Order. It symbolizes the advent of a god man on earth.

Compare the original

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/Jesus888111 .html

And then do consider the conclusion, that all these numbers, and events, and dates, were not by accident but by divinne DESIGN. For the dark side knows when it will take over, and we should know when we have to GATHER.

www.geocitie... s.com/davidjayjo rdan/Lastgatheri ng.html

David Flynn confirms our dates, even though they have been confirmed previously, but it all adds up.

"According to Christian eschatology, the return of Jesus as king of the earth follows the appearance of his counterfeit. This false king will control humanity empowered by the same angelic rebels that ruled the earth before Noah entered the Ark. This concept has been around for a long time. It isn't so extraordinary that Roswell repeats it. The troubling aspect of the Roswell message is that it seems to predict that these events will occur, or begin to occur in 2012.

As 2012 is the start of GREAT TRIBULATION

To be continued....



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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I ended the above POSTING with ...

According to the illuminated elite, as the first messiah came to establish the Kingdom of Heaven, the second illuminated messiah will establish a New World under his rule. Concerning this messiah, Manly P. Hall, wrote:

"The outcome of the 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers. This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings... "The Secret Destiny of America., p. 26."



But we shall know more than they, and be connected to the King of Kings rather than the King of this world.


End of the ARTICLE I wrote, but may I add that how is the Lord going to fight these devils and demons and intellectuals that know some of the Lord's numeric powerful truths. Simple, we have to be brighter than them. We are not going to arm ourselves as suggested HERE, we are simply going to gather when the Lord directs us to, and with whom the Lord directs us to. Our leadership will be brighter than theirs. ts a match of wills and minds, and ours are brighter.

We are harmless as doves but wioser than serpents. wiser not dumber. We don;t have to worry about the dam NWO, and thier Illuminati if we get the Lord's wisdom and knowledge and have the right leadership not the wrong leadership. That's the solution.

Then and only then shall we do exploits as Daniel said. Not through being just naive and faithful, but being bright, experienced and FAITHFUL, having tried and proven the Lord's principles and numbers.

read the article again, because the ancients knew their numbers, which relate directly to the laws of the Universe that the Lord created

SEE 33 hertz. etc.. www.geocities.com...

IE The number 33 isn;t powwerful that is superstition, but the number 33 is powerful because of the design of how the Lord made the real world, real sound, real frequency, real geometry.








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posted on May, 21 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Davidjayjordan
...to see the 2012 date as the time of the A.C.'s rule in the NWO as its dictatorial leader.


My own feeling on this is that 2012 is far too convenient. The exposure and press that this "magical" date has garnered, since at least the late 80s, seems contrived. It is likely staged.

It seems to me that 2012 has been hijacked for a nefarious purpose. Perhaps after the bust of 2000 - and especially because many Bible believing Christians were looking towards that date for prophetic fulfillment - the powers that be decided that - aha! - here's our chance to co-op, control, and deceive the prophecy crowd. "While we discredit the biblical claims," they mutter under their breath, "we shall make damn sure that something real happens on our chosen date!"

Look at where the indoctrination comes from as well. Much of the 2012 theorists have invariably been new age occultists. While simultaneously advocating for crystal therapy and contact with disembodied spirits or ETs, 2012 has been steadily catapulted to the fore.

AC and 2012? They might make damn sure of it. For the elite to stage such a thing, all it takes is imagination, will, and power - but especially, technology. Surely you've heard of Project Blue Beam.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 01:28 AM
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Fire, the heavens are not contrived, the rotations and revolutions of the Sun, Moon, Earth and the stars were set in motion by the Lord himself. The very heavens are showing there will be a convergance on Dec. 21, 2012 of us and the Milky Way. Do the research. This is not New Age mumbo jumbo, but simple reality.

And when you understand that 2012, has to be preceeded by a three and a half year span (1/2 of Seven Years before the take over by the AC, then you realise that this can easily happen with the Iranian War this year. Again this is not contrived, but will happen. SEE Whatsreallyhappining.com Its a given and people don;t even have to know prophecy to see it coming. For it takes the iranian War and the Mid east Wars to flare up to bring the whole world into a Peace Covenant as mentioned in Daniel 9 and Revelation. Its just a simple study of time frames... given and confirmed by almost every one of the prophets.


This combining with the facts of history concerning the 1,000 year periods since creation, give another confirming marker that 2012 is indeed, the year of the AC takeover and our GATHERING.

And if you look at it the other way, Fire.... the dark side knows prophecy. They are blasting their take over year, far and wide for a very good reason. Their man will come to power exactly at that time.....a counterfeit SECOND COMING.

He will bring peace after the nuclear devastation he caused to secure peace from the war mongers. So the hype is real, on the dark side as well, and they are preparing. Fire, study the 70 years of Moses as it also indicates 2012 is the start of the Great tribulation.

www.geocities.com...

So from every angle, including the great explanation of David Flynn in his 33 , 2012 mile calculations etc.... you can not shrug off these truths without looking into them.

We are not of the night, that that day should overtake us. The New Agers, UFO'ers, Jews, Muslims, and church Christians will love his advent, but we shall have been forewarned and prepared and go on as Jesus told us to do..

So do consider studying and learning the basic SEVEN Year Prophecy of Daniel, Fire, then you will realise the timing and events scheduled, and maybe see that 2012 coincides with the heavens, and what the Earth is expecting, and with the Lord's Prophecy

www.geocities.com...

And maybe we can also discuss, why 1947 is so important even in the prophecy of Revelation and its connection with a Pacific volcano exploding and why. It has to do with the geometry of the Earth and again fits into prophecy. Or prophecy fits into geometry of creation...... for they are ONE.

And do remember that the Lord is the Creator and has designed the earth, and has rthymn and meaning in His Time Frames as well as His closing ACT.... meaning the Great Tribulation.. It will be the worst of times, but for us the greatest of times as we fight for our Lord and each other til the End. Onward Christian soldiers... if I am allowed to say that HERE.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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2012 is contrived. It has no special significance other than what the blood-thirsty Mayan priests had given it. Modern astronomy has nothing to say about the Winter solstice of 2012 anymore than the Winter solstice of 2008 ...or 1666, or 1999.

Since no one was entirely sure what the Mayans really intended in marking the date, the New Agers claimed it as their own and have spun a tale for the credulous. I agree with Susan Milbrath, quoted in the Wiki link above:



Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[13]

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[14]



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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Fire,

Of course, the Mayans are not the ultimate source of knowledge and of course, one person's denial of their mathematical abilities is hardly something to discredit the movements of the heavens and the alignment that will be happenning erxactly on the Equinox.... the shortest day of the year and the longest night of the year. Do study cycles Fire, because again, it is not by chance but by design. For if there is anything you might consider after this discussion is that the Creator has a Design and a PLAN, and it is perfect and has to be eventually known before He sets his final finale onto the stage.

Try

Again the Mayans are devilish, you got that right. That's why their mathematics was so great. They didn;t learn these things in the jungles of Central America, it was with demonic angelic help that they acquired this knowledge. Again do the study and reserach on this, Fire.

Consider Mayans and 2012
www.geocities.com...

""Don't kid yourself, the Mayans were highly educated in math and astronomy not because of their own efforts but because evil spiritual entities took over as rulers of their jungle culture. For don't think that a tropical climate could provide for the numbers of urban people needed to build their cities, it can't and never will be able to. Their cities were build with the help of fallen angels, demons and bad spirits.""

So you got it RIGHT, Fire. They definitely were bloodthirsty and demonically inspired.


Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men
reply to post by Davidjayjordan
 


2012 is contrived. It has no special significance other than what the blood-thirsty Mayan priests had given it. Modern astronomy has nothing to say about the Winter solstice of 2012 anymore than the Winter solstice of 2008 ...or 1666, or 1999.

""That's a given, not debateable but I quess I have to give you hyperlinks. Pity, it is just simple astronomy.""

Since no one was entirely sure what the Mayans really intended in marking the date, the New Agers claimed it as their own and have spun a tale for the credulous. I agree with Susan Milbrath, quoted in the Wiki link above:



Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[13]

""The paranoia of the world coming to an end, makes people stop thinking, it is an extreme exaggerration. The Mayans and devils and prophecy itself states clearly that it is the time of the change. A new era. The dam devils get their short time in their son. A season if you will of three and a half years and then comes the Battle of Armeggeddon. But even Armegeddon is not the end, but the BEGINNING of the Lord's take over and start of His Millinium Reign. Again SEE basic Daniel timeline""

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[14]


People always try to cash in, on anything and everything but that does not take away from the astrological events, and the repeated pattern and exact prophecy dates and numbers that are repeatedly mentioned in prophecy, in Giza, and the events that unfolded HERE on Earth.

So let's get back to math, and Roswell and how the Illuminati started the UFO introduction via a plan.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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My apologies Fire and ALL,

As in my last POST, I was seeing if my comments would be separated when posted within your comments ... Fire. They weren't, even though I added "...". So it might have made for a little confusion.

Ha, for on topic, that is what the Illuminati try to do ... confuse. The Lord has definite patterns and design, and yet the Illuminati try to suggest to the masses that everything is by chance or by choice. Sorry the major events of the world have been established by the Creator from the start, and our only choice is to be on the RIGHT SIDE. We are not going to stop what the Lord has ordained.

Therefore we can NOT be so foolish as to think we can stop the plan and design and TIMING of the Illuminati. They have a schedule and a timeline.... and its obviously 2012. For FIRE, as you and others know they have wantonly displayed their knowledge of when they will take over. This in and of itself, will cause the weak minded to think that the dam Anti-Christ is divine and who are they NOT to take His MARK. They literally will become religious and believe at that time.

But we knowing in advance of the machinations of the dark side and knowing the LIGHT side of what we are to do gives us the advantage.
We NOT them are the winners. We shall know more than them. Be stronger in mind and spirit than them. We do NOT need physical weapons, stored food, secured private compounds that the NWO will burn down and destory. We have advance warning and KNOWledge. We have cut through the dis-information to the real patterns of the Lord.

Don;t you agree ?

And one of the first things to realise is that the sun and moon and stars were created by the Lord for times and seasons. Straight from Genesis. So is it any wonder, that our Solar System is at the Hub of the Milky Way exactly at the time of December 21, 2012.... the winter equinox.

Or is everything by chance ? I say DESIGN from seeing the DESIGN. The choice is ours.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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FIRE and ALL,

Never thought anyone would challenge the obvious cross or intersection of our Solar System with the Milky Way, I thought it was a given. So anyway FIRE, try ...

archives.cnn.com...

Then go to ....

www.artideas.com...

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"""Where is the Sun this Year?
Now that we have a stable galactic equator in the Starry Night astronomy program, what can we tell about the conjunction with the winter solstice.
Using solstice information for the years 1992 to 2020 from the US Naval Observatory the distance of the winter solstice and the World Tree was measured. The years 1992 through 2000 and 2012 are shown in the table to the right. It is 1997 that the conjunction is the closest. But in a 25,920 year cycle we can certainly say we are in the era of this conjunction. There is a one hundred and forty year period centered on 1997 that the Sun crosses the galactic equator on the day of the solstice.



It is said by some that Jesus of Nazareth was really born in 4 BC. If this is the case 1997 would be the first year of the third millennium after the birth of Jesus."""

O.K. simply using this exact date of 1997, then the third millinium after Jesus started THEN, exactly six thousand years after the Creation Date given in Genesis.... of 4004 B.C.

SEE www.geocities.com...

And then 2012 fits in exactly ... with the Lord's take over in 2017. For do remember 2012 is just the start of Great tribulation it lasts 3 asnd a half years, then Wrath, and then the clean up before the Lord's return back on Earth to reign in His Millinium.

Notice the dates and the spans and the consistency exactness.

SEE timeline at top of page.... details below

www.geocities.com...

Are you starting to catch the exactness that only the Lord could DESIGN and PLAN. For He is in control and not the Illuminati. It will be the worst of times, but also the best of times. In which all our brethren have all wanted to live in.

IMO

David

So hopefully the alignment intersection of the Solar System and the Galxy is not debateable but now a given in astronmic movements that will happen exactly on December 21, 2012.

Agreed ?



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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Debated and debunked. Get your astronomical data from a realm astronomer:
www.astro.uu.nl...



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 12:15 PM
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The Mayans were influenced by Satanic Forces.

With all the prophecy being fulfilled do you think God will send another messanger?

Yes he would. That messanger is here. The New Age Moses is here to lead us and Free us from Pharoh to start a new civilization as God did before with the Jews.

You have to get educated on this and we need to come together. I am not that messanger but I do know who it is.

There is a Book called The Extreme Way - Target Earth Ground Zero Countdown to the Final Battle that is going public in about a month. THis will describe to you the whole situation on how we got to where we are now and what is going to happen at the end. We have the solution, there is hope for a future. It begins with us and the ones willing to read the book and take the Faith in God to another level. He will show his powers.

Get your people together. Let them know that there is hope. If you want a few chapters of this book before it comes out please email me at *SNIP* and I will gladly pass the good news on to you. It will change your world.

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posted on May, 21 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by uknow_me72

The Mayans were influenced by Satanic Forces.

With all the prophecy being fulfilled do you think God will send another messanger?

Yes he would. That messanger is here. The New Age Moses is here to lead us and Free us from Pharoh to start a new civilization as God did before with the Jews.



Yes the Mayans were definitely influenced and directed and taught by demonic forces. They did not think up their mathematics themselves.

Will the Lord send another messenger, of course. They are called the Two Witnesses of Revelation (Zechariah, Psalms etc..) and have these qualities

www.geocities.com...

Are they another Moses, yes, the End Time King David as promised to King David of Old had the parrallel of Moses and Aaron before them.

Its the pattern that repeats itself over and over again exactly.

SEE and understand

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Our two prophets being matched against the AC and the False prophet, his religious counterpart.

Moses had Aaron, David had Nathan, and we shall have two messengers, two prophets, two branches, two candlesticks, two pillars of the End Time. It is the pattern.

And we shall have a SECOND EXODUS as Jesus instructed his people to do, exactly after December 21, 2012. SEE Mathew 24, 15-22

Notice the parallels exactly....

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Thanks Uknow.... as we got to fly...as mentiopned in revelation 12, into the wilderness right after 2012, where the Lord shall feed and supply for us in the wilderness, exactly like He did the first Children of Israel.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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FIRE, you do fight a basic and a given. Maybe because you don;t want to consider DESIGN and a DESIGNER.

So let's take your pemise of no design. Roswell was just an act of some drunken aliens or a UFO that just happenned to accidently fall from the sky exactly at a point 2012 miles from the equator and median, exactly like Mount Herman of Sidon as mentioned in Biblical terms. What is the probability of these two events being exactly co-inciding.

Is everything but luck and chance. Can man choose a political system that will deliver huim from the obvious take over by the Illuminati. Can we build a so-called Bridge of Love by enlightening those that buy our books like David Icke. Can mere enlightened humans that know about the conspiracy of the Illuminati rise and conquer, those that have armies, and mind control and the media and every conceivable weapon ?

Can your denial change the heavenly courses and make them not significant in time because your astronmers don't like a date. Are there no patterns, no timelines. Is everything just a hit and miss chaotic hope of the Illuminati so that they have no scenario of events and no time frames in which to conquer and control?

You seem to suggest that there can be no paterns, because you refuse to even see the obvious heavenly movements.

And so do excuse me if I look deeper rather than your one sentence denial of the Solar System entering the Black Hole of the Milky Way. I see design and repeated patterns not luck and chance and no timelines and no scenarios.

But the choice is yours FIRE.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Davidjayjordan
the Solar System entering the Black Hole of the Milky Way


I'm sorry to be condescending but ... man you're funny. Did you ever listen to yourself?



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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O.K.... Let's not get balked down on a given.

For all angles have to equate to form a principle. from every direction there should be confirming evidence to support a principle. A errant astronomer forget'em, a wild one sentence interpretation or verse, forget it. To form a precept as Isiah talked about, it has to be precept upon precept. A principle has to be reinforced in different fields, from different angles, or repeated over and over again in different ways in different scriptures or science. A principle can then be seen as a law, and part of DESIGN.

Whew, all that to suggest that 1947, was a significant year acoording to the jubilees after Creation. But I already gave that hyperlink.

And yet David Flynn suggested that 1947, correlated to 19.47 degrees, the exact angle of a tetrahedron apexies hitting an enclosed sphere around them.

So do read again what David flynn wrote.... on this

For 19.47 degrees is not a random number when it comes to the surface of the earth and that exact latitude. Because of the underlying design geometry of the Lord's created earth. there is a weak spot on that exact latitude. And it is for this reason that volcano's erupt there.

www.geocities.com...

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And lo and behold, when you pin point the major volcano's of the world where do most of them align themselves but around 19.5 degrees latitude. Is this a coincidence ? obviously not !! For consider the location of the following volcano's .....

Mauna Loa, Hawaii (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 155 degrees 37 minutes W)
Mauna-Kea Volcano on the island of Hawaii. (19.6 degrees North)
Mexico City, Mexico (19 degrees 23 minutes N, 99 degrees 10 minutes W)
The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan is at 19.6 degrees north.
Dzibalchen, (Yucatan), Mexico (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 89 degrees 46 minutes W)
Georgetown, Grand Cayman Island (19 degrees 18 minutes N, 81 degrees 26 minutes W)
Mount Emi Koussi, Chad, Africa (19 degrees 47 minutes N, 18 degrees 34 minutes E)
Mount Kalsubai, (near Bombay), India (19 degrees 33 minutes N, 73 degrees 43 minutes E)
Mountain near Xiangkhoang, Laos (19 degrees 17 minutes N, 103 degrees 17 minutes E)
Mountain near Potosi, Bolivia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 66 degrees 22 minutes W)
Yasur Volcano, Tanna Island, Vanuatu (South Pacific Ocean) (19 degrees 31 minutes S, )
Mount Samuel, Northwest Territory, Australia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 134 degrees 8 minutes E)
Gweru, Zimbabwe, Africa (19 degrees 31 minutes S, 29 degrees 49 minutes E)

And what 'Element' is assigned to a Tetrahedron ? Is it Earth, Air, Water or Fire ? You guessed it, it's FIRE and again it is no coincidence. For 19.5 degrees is associated literally and geographically with the Fire of the Earth by Design. And is it not logical that the Lord of the whole earth and Universe would then follow His design pattern of the Earth to follow His design Pattern of TIME (called Prophecy) and make a volcano arise out of the Pacific near Hawaii near the 19.5 degree latitude ?

End of excerpt....

So there be FIRE for FIRE and other readers.

And the Fire of the End Time, the volcano erupting as mentioned in Revelation is surely springing exactly from this latitude as the Templar Knights groups have forecast and noticed literally.

It fits the parameters of Revelation in polluting the whole Pacific, one third of the world's waters turing to red blood, or red ash.

So let's think again when we think everything is by luck and chance, and nothing is by DESIGN and timelines.

For from the Beginning there was a PLAN and a SCRIPT written for history, and the Illuminati and the NWO is just fulfilling what they have been ordained to do. We can;t stop their vile but we can get others on the Right Side, the winning SIDE

IMO


David



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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David,
You know a lot here on the some big subjects that are not being look at fully because our fellow brothers do not understand who Yahweh is.

Can you email me so we can talk more? NA.Helpingu@gmail.com



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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But U know, You know sometimes open discussions help more than private ones. It helps us understand what we think we understand, as questions that deserve answers need to given or improved upon, or confirmed.

For in the mouth of two or three let everything be confirmed.

Sure two or three angles or verse or facts from the Lord's laws of nature are good, but also because we are not alone, then some others should agree with what we say, or with what one says. ... if it makes sense.

Uknow what I mean, so sure write me at Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com but if it stops you asking me HERE a query or me asking you HERE a query, it might be ahindrance rather than a help...uknowwhatImeanUKNOW.

Just a first thought....



posted on May, 22 2008 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men

Originally posted by Davidjayjordan
the Solar System entering the Black Hole of the Milky Way


I'm sorry to be condescending but ... man you're funny. Did you ever listen to yourself?


No, Fire, you think by being condescending you can avoid the study it takes and the discernment it takes to consider the math, geography, geometry I have written about. You therefore must be in favour of being shallow, and therefore try to avert your conviction by suggesting what I say is funny.

Sorry the NWO is not funny. There timetable is not funny. Their methods are not funny. Their knowledge of what you don't understand is not funny but extremely serious. So can I suggest, you get serious about a serious subject rather than suggesting my writing about their serious timetable is funny. If you can;t understand design and rational manipulation and their PLAN, to reframe from trying to make it a joke. It may be an attempt to back out of a serious study gracefully, but it just doesn't work. It takes time and effort and sincerity to make progress, not excuses that serious subjects are funny.

Get back to the exact math, heometry and geography of Roswell, and consider they have a PLAN< A DESIGN and a TIMETABLE.


Sincerely hoping to hear better things from you in the future....


David Jay Jordan



posted on May, 22 2008 @ 07:25 AM
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Well, you have to look at reality. And not what others might believe.

33hz is not a sacred frequency, or a sacred number. It comes after 32. It's just math, and really holds no magical or time telling properties. I can't connect all these ties to numbers that are used every day in multiple situations.

This has been done to death on so many situations, and it never turns out to be right. If you are planning to take over the world would you even give people a chance to figure it out, let alone with math? I personally wouldn't. But call me crazy.



posted on May, 22 2008 @ 01:33 PM
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I agree on what you say that open discussion is the way for others to perceive the big picture.

That's why I have came on this site to confirm some details and believe me I have so much more. BTW your site www.geocities.com... has a lot of great information on it and I think that anyone really that wants to see a little more of the spirtual parnomal side of things check it out. God's technology is Spiritual. Things align for a reason and the signs that David has hit on are part of the Big Picture.

A few things here that I know we need to get everyone on the same page and see the Bigger Picture. Lets not only see whats in front of us but look around. I know the genereal members on the board have already been given the wake up call and are THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. It does go futher beyond that.

How many knew that the Mason's were created by a man that was one of King Davids good friends?

Hiram Abiff was a Humanist Gnostic who founded the Masons. The Masons embraced all of the occult practices of the Gnostics. Through the Gnostic Masons, over the centuries, Satan was able to target the Israelites (Jews), the early Christians, the Protestants and all of the survivors- the followers of Jesus Christ, the Bible believing Christians, children and the family unit (Latin-unus-unity-one; a single person as part of a whole). The world under humanism - is an inverted world - everything “good is bad” and everything “bad is good,” where there are no rules of conduct and everyone lives in the “gray zone,” of uncertainty and no clear decisions. This is the antithesis of the “black and white world” described by Jesus Christ.

Hiram had pull and Trust with King David and infiltrated there system to tear them down. He ended up Teaching the Jewish Priest and Levities to be Masons.

Parts of the big picture we need to see, because all these are connects.
God - Spirtual Technology - Physical Technolgy - Aliens - Human - Religion - Government

You need to know that all these have the same thing in common. With out God none of this Exist. The Spiritual World effects the Physcial word. Aliens intruduced us to Physical Technology so we can forget about the Spiritual Technology. The Aliens are Satan and His Minons. Satan had his own galaxy and came here to destroy life. He wants what God has. The Universe. Satan wants to be the God of Humans, slave us and lead us to battle against God. The Aliens used there spiritual technology to influence us. They have tried to influence us since the dawn of Man. Adam and Eve. The Early people were Satanicly influenced. God reached to Abraham to let him know to make a new society that is ruled under God in 2091 B.C. This is when we started to know about God again after the Flood. These guys had tons of favor showed toward them and there 1,000 reign is over and past but the Bible has been changed several times so the Jewish still think they are the chosen people by false information and there 1,000 rule is still to come. This day there is no religion that will lead us to the future but the New Age Moses is here with the answers. Now God was getting ready to make a reset because his nation had eventail succumbed to the Satanic influence but his son Jesus, mankinds Savour interviend with humanism. Jesus taught the people to have compassion and love. He showed the spiritual abilities he had of healing and exorcism. He told these people that the spiritual effects the physical because of the evil forces willing it to. This stands the same today. We are dealing with a lot of distractions and the fact that his happened so long ago the Humanist have the advantage to say there is no proof. The abilities will be restore to the Faithful. There is a lot of new and exciting things comming back around with the spirtual technology being re introduced.



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