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Topic started on 15-5-2008 @ 10:47 AM by FlyersFan
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Any smudge advice ... please post!
Okay ... those who have been here a while know that I'm a 'haunted person'. Spooks everywhere .. all the time .. every house I've lived in ...
every building I've worked in.
This weekend I finally tried smudging. I ordered white sage smudge sticks from New Mexico and went through the house, from top to bottom, smudging.
I used Christian prayers for the dead as well as Christian exorcism prayers along with the smudge sticks.
I read that the smudge sticks take the spook energy out of the house and that if you smudge often then the spooks will be sick (literally) of being
around and being lifeless and will give up and leave.
I also read that some spooks can make people sick since they drain the energy from the house AND from the occupants. They need the energy to
manifest, etc etc. We had a terrible winter of sickness and so I thought that if it were partly because of the spooks (and we have plenty here) then
perhaps smudging might help.
I used white sage (to get rid of the spooks). I also bought black sage (mugwort?)- which is supposed to promote healing.
The prayers I said were Christian prayers and these should not have been offensive to any native american traditions -
1 - St. Michael Prayer - asking the angels to keep the house and occupants safe from evil spirits.
2 - The 'rest in peace' prayer - 'May the souls of the departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace ... May the souls of those wandering in
this house, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.'
3 - "Our Father who art in Heaven - deliver us from evil".
4 - And I asked for the Blood of Christ to enter our home and cleanse anywhere the smoke touched. (which was pretty much everywhere because I really
doused the house a good one).
I kinda mixed Christian and a bit of Native American (by using the smudge stick), but I thought the Native Americans were on to something with it.
I had a hard time getting the smudge stick to light. It refused to light anywhere until I got to the kitchen and then .. WHOOSH it lit and smoked up
really good. Then I took it through the house.
RESULTS - It's only been four days, but all the activity is dormant. We usually have lots of footsteps, lots of creaking floors and stairways (and
banisters creeking like someone is leaning on them), lots of spook activity with my daughters toys and the dog toys squeeking by themselves, lots of
activity at the bookcase with the books being rummaged through .... but it's quiet.
The house sounds like we are inside a big cotten ball. QUIET.
I know it won't last forever and that I'll have to resmudge and resay the prayers. But it's nice.
Any smudge suggestions??
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 12:24 AM by Levita
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Yeah, i suggest some sort of real exorcism, or getting a person who an get rid of the activity. These things can actually just make demons angry at
you, and wanna attack. I'd also suggest learning some shielding, instead of relying on a plant. Rely on yourself. The mind can be a very powerful
thing when awakened and put to use.
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 06:41 AM by FlyersFan
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The house has been blessed.
We have plenty of blessed objects around.
And nothing is demonic.
I've run into damned souls/demons in Japan.
The difference is between a ghost and a damned soul or a demon is almost tangible. There is no mistaking the difference.
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 11:21 AM by Dragonfly79
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
I also read that some spooks can make people sick since they drain the energy from the house AND from the occupants. They need the energy to
manifest, etc etc. We had a terrible winter of sickness and so I thought that if it were partly because of the spooks (and we have plenty here) then
perhaps smudging might help.
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Any smudge suggestions??
[edit on 5/15/2008 by FlyersFan] 
While it's not a smudge suggestion, I don't believe spirits need the energy to manifest but rather it's more a heroin/junkie kind of thing. In the
afterlife there's no "chi/ki/phrana/Holy Spirit/life energy" it radiates from our physical bodies and our spirit is attached to that physical and
uses it daily. A spirit might come along and feel that energy (and feel better than before it was absent from it's existence) and be drawn to it
(rather than be drawn to the person). Some spirits might realize they are deceased and move on. Some only realize after a while and move on. It might
also be that there are too many spirits around an individual and (s)he might get fatigued and lateron sick. Spirits that realize they are deceased but
will still not go either don't know how or don't want to (the latter I'd call 'demonic').
I'm not of any religion but I do pray (when dealing with spirits) and when I do I usually pray to the ancestors of the spirit in question. Everyone
has had family, there's always someone showing up and guiding the spirit to move on. This way a spirit will not take offense when a different
religion is called upon.
That cotton ball comparison sounds like a nice job done!
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 05:50 PM by lw2525
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I posted a fairly long story a while back detailing the extremely bizarre sounds
that manifest in my house. The consensus opinion seems to be that they're
caused by a restless or mischievous entity.
I burn sage and sweetgrass. Sweetgrass has a light, vanilla-like smell.
A Lakota Indian friend told me the sage repels bad spirits, and the sweetgrass
attracts good spirits. We also leave a few bunches of sweetgrass lying around, and the scent lasts for weeks. I picked enough sage on a South Dakota
prairie to fill a large grocery bag. I wouldn't want to be without either item.
Some plant nurseries or garden centers sell sweetgrass plugs, and you can grow it in your yard.
It sounds like the smudging worked for you. You're probably welcoming the quiet, after hearing the sounds constantly. I honestly think the smudging
has worked for me...I'll experience 6-7 months of quiet before having an episode of the strange noises.
Regarding the prayers, I've heard more than one instance of the prayer to
St Michael the Archangel "cleaning out" a place of nasty entities or evil spirits. Fortunately you didn't have anything like that in your house.
Your having experiences with damned souls is scary! I'd like to hear more
about that....ie: Where in Japan did you experience them? Hopefully not in a place you lived!
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 05:59 PM by lw2525
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I'm not arguing here... only relaying things I've been told, and I've been told there are definitely malevolent entities who can and will drain
energy from people, to the point of physically weakening them. Some of the nicest people
can be preyed upon by these entities if they let themselves get into a situation that may attract said entities.
My Lakota friend said these beings are pretty common. He claimed there's actually a "class" or type of them that hang out in bars, casinos, and
such places. They are attracted to the base, vulgar energies there.
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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 06:28 AM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by lw2525
Your having experiences with damned souls is scary! I'd like to hear more
about that....ie: Where in Japan did you experience them? Hopefully not in a place you lived! 
I lived in Japan for 3 years. Camp Zama Japan. The 'damned souls' or evil spirits (don't know which) were in the building I worked in. (the
house was haunted too, but that's another story). These entities HATED. They were pure HATE. There is no other word for it. The building was a
rather quiet one, on the edge of the military post. We only had a dozen or so Americans and a handful of Japanese working there. The Catholic
Americans felt the spirits, the non-Catholics didn't. (strange, eh?) We felt HATE standing next to us and we felt that all the hate was directed at
us. It was only in certain parts of the building. In the other parts, we felt watched by people we couldn't see and we heard LOTS of footsteps and
strange noises.
It was the HATE .. pure HATE ... and it was all directed toward you. You can't miss it. It's amazingly evil. Pure evil. I can't even put it
into words ....
Never saw them .. just felt them. And that was enough. I can't imagine the ugliness of what was pumping out that hate. Don't want to even think
about it .... (shudder)
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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 06:45 AM by wytworm
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Sounds like ATS'ers...
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reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 12:28 AM by Levita
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Ahh, and what class would that be? Wraiths? I once saw one in a theatre. Hideous, but blurry. Very odd.
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reply posted on 16-6-2008 @ 05:31 PM by FlyersFan
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Okay .. one month later. ...
The house got noisy again. The spook(s) were active again.
We've been getting the usual footsteps, creeks, and pokes.
So .. we smudged again.
But this time, instead of feeling like we were in a giant cotton ball
and having everything quiet... nothing changed. The house is still
rock'n to the spooks.
We did everything exactly the same. But the house is still loud.
odd.
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reply posted on 16-6-2008 @ 06:04 PM by caitlinfae
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FlyersFan...have been reading your post with interest, and I have a few more, heavy duty suggestions that you might find useful...but it's late here
and I'm dog tired, so I will send you all the information I can summon up in the morning..
Sleep well
Caitlin
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reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 05:41 AM by FlyersFan
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double post. sorry.
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reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 05:41 AM by FlyersFan
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Please feel free to post the info.
I'm Christian so I'm using Christian prayers with the smudging.
I'm not going to cross over into the wiccan prayers.
But feel free to post whatever info you have.
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reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 02:46 AM by Anonymous ATS
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