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Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [i.e. biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.
Crouch: That’s right.
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by LDragonFire
Interesting thread. I do have a couple of disagreements with Ben Stein's statements as well as yours in your commentary.
Regarding Ben Stein's Comments: Although it is true science has been used as a tool and inspiration for massive destruction, science has also brought immense advancements and has saved untold lives through medicine, technology, etc.
General Statement: Likewise, religion has been the inspiration for immeasurable suffering and destruction but at the same time has also been responsible for taking care of widows and orphans, education, hospitals, and various humanitarian efforts.
Conclusion: Both religion and science have the potential for advancement and destruction. Due to this, we're left to conclude the problem and benefit leads us back to... people. Or as another member said in THIS comment, "Science is as bad as religion in the hands of zealots."
To the OP commentary: It was proven on another member's thread called 'Are Atheists Airbrushing History?' that atheist/secular states have killed more than religiously inspired wars and that things like the Inquisition and Crusades caused only a fraction of deaths in comparison. Not anything to make an issue out of due to what we already explained in the preceding paragraph but I still wanted to point that out.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I disagree with this, and by proven, I have to assume thats your point of view, and that doesn't make it fact at all, but it's a discussion for that other thread.
That was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you. (My emphasis)
Originally posted by bigbert81
Yes, unfortunately, it would seem, that Ben Stein has gone off the deep end.
I couldn't believe it when he actually compared scientists to Nazi's performing sick and twisted crap on Jews.
This guy's just lost it.