reply to post by jmanshiphop
Never heard of 'Time' personally, and am a 20+ vet of Hip Hop culture...
upon looking him up...
Is rapper Time a freemason/illuminati member?
Honestly, his style and flow sounds like they are not fully polished and honed, and the quality makes me believe that he possibly records in his
Its quite likely that he is using the 'Masonry' tip as his hook to get known or have attention, or that he is actually a member. From what I
understand, Masons would never share their 'secrets' with those uninitiated. Perhaps I am wrong, but building up your internet rap cred blathering
on about the 'secrets' would get you booted from the club. Do a google search yourself and see the 'wealth' of information on the topic.
On the other hand, using hidden meaning and symbolism would allow one to openly communicate secret messages, but I am not sure who 'Time' is
communicating to... I think that in that case, its all hype and wannabe play acting
My opinion is that somewhere along the line, Masonry became a 'fall guy' for more nefarious secret group/s. I also think that subconsciously, most
humans are unaware of societal symbolism that is thrown at us on a daily basis, and how symbols and logos today are still the same symbols of old,
just with Web 2.0 reflections. I also think that Masonry and its symbols have been used by those who want some of the 'hype' to rub off on them.
Rockerfeller becomes Rocafella.
But then again, most of us today have no idea that the 'Musclebound Gangsta Rapper' stereotype is highly homoerotic. Why would most dudes want to
buy a cd of 50 Cent without a shirt on? Subconsciously, there is a fear being stoked, that terrorizes the psyche in the back of our minds regarding
dropping the soap in the shower with dudes like 50 Cent. And then he says lines like... "Keep thinking I'm Candy" and the like....
He doesn't even have to know he is doing it, just perpetuating the stereotypes that he was raised in.
If you are looking for 'knowledge' from a highly educated source, Immortal Technics knows what he is talking about. But I think he is an outsider
looking in. Talib Kweli, and Mos Def (Blackstar) have incredible knowledge and seem to be 'good', but quite possibly are 'involved' in the
conspiracy themselves. They flirt with the 'Majors' because of their immense talents, but perhaps have not 'crossed' all the way over on talent
alone because they are not willing to play along. Another artist to look into would be Ras Kass, arguably one of the best ever that really isn't
know. I think he said something he shouldn't, and the iced his albums. He has like a 9 minute song that breaks the history of all of civilization,
but from a hidden/stolen knowledge perspective.
I also recommend looking into the Five Percent Nation, and its ties to Hip Hop, especially 'known' hip hop artists of the late 80s/90s. Like Rakim
and Nas, and Tribe Called Quest (Q Tip was one of the first to practice the rolled up pant leg), there are so many. You should also look at the
Chicago gangs like the Black P Stones, Latin Kings, and Gangster Disciples. The bastardized 'masonic' styled hierarchies fly in the face of true
Freemasonry, and only add to what causes Roark's pavlovian mouth watering...
Honestly, I don't have all the answers, and doubt I ever will. But I know from my own personal life experiences in Hip Hop, and what I have seen
through my research on the topic, that anyone who nay-says the OP and others like it because the 'players' are not 'true masons' is laughable.
There is something there, I just cant grasp it... oh wait I know...
"Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the sh*t you need to learn though
That ETHER, that sh*t that make your soul burn slow"
from Nas' Ether
from 12-2001 responding to Jay-Z's diss on his 9-11-2001, blueprint....
Mods: I am not trying to skirt the censor or anything, I actually edited the quote I took to 'play nice'... fix if needed...
[edit on 8/5/2008 by DocMoreau]