Originally posted by Flyer

Just give them what they want and move on.

Then they blow you away so they don't get fingered. Nice. Did you read my post about them dialing 911 and killing the paramedics for a drug box? If everyone carried a gun you would have some accidents for sure. You would also create plenty of fear in these thugs hearts and cut violent crime in half.

Do you have any idea what its like to be the prey of these violent predators? As a civilized society we don't need to take that. They know the cops cannot show up in time so these animals take full advantage of that.

We as Americans are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore. Our political correctness made this madhouse. we cannot point out facts that certain demographic is preying on us because we let them. We don't take about this 500 lb gorilla that sits there and knows we will lie down for it.

Its time to tame our country. Its time we openly talk about the problem without being labeled. If you cannot even talk about the problem how do you fix it?

Its not about money. Its about principle. I say NO MORE!

We need to stand on our hind legs like men If a gun is in your face you pull yours and shoot them. They may shoot you first, but enough citizens do this and the predators who deep in there hearts are cowards will finally stop.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
Did you read my post about them dialing 911 and killing the paramedics for a drug box?

Could you link that please - I sure a lot of people would like to read into that.

Originally posted by Now_Then

Could you link that please - I sure a lot of people would like to read into that.

This is from personal experience. They were friends of mine. I am fire/rescue.

Originally posted by almeister 5000
Now i'm from england so we can't carry guns legally (The smart idea)

I don't know if this statement was scarcasim (sorry if it was); but maybe if you were able to, your Government wouldn't be so Orwellan.

/Sorry for the off-topic remark.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan

This is from personal experience. They were friends of mine. I am fire/rescue.

so thats a no then, Im pretty sure paramedics being shot dead for drugs would make the local news at least.

If the driver is unarmed, theres a minimal chance he will get shot if he hands over the cash.

If hes armed, theres a very good chance he will be shot dead as soon as he goes for the gun.

Getting mad at the robbers is massively lowering the chance of survival.

Originally posted by ferretman2

I don't know if this statement was scarcasim (sorry if it was); but maybe if you were able to, your Government wouldn't be so Orwellan.

/Sorry for the off-topic remark.

Yeah, and everyone in the US owning guns is really helping out against the government there.

I deleted all content on My own.

[edit on 24-4-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

I'm a manager at a pizza hut location in texas, and I know all about the dangers that delivery drivers face. It's actually a very sensitive situation.

No- drivers (like any other employee of any regular company) are not allowed to carry any kind of weapon on them while at work. What they have in their car is their own business, but what is on their person while they are on the job is the company's business.

I've been the manager on duty when a few of our driver muggings have occurred. The drivers are always reimbursed, and are required to undergo medical examination for any injuries they sustain. Therefore, it IS always better to just hand over what the robbers are asking for. I know alot of extremely paranoid people on this thread have the opinion that these robbers "might just be looking to kill someone". Seriously? Then why would they ask for the money? Why wouldn't they just shoot the guy? A very low percentage of sociopaths aside, there is always a reason for someone to threaten someone else. Give that person what they want, and you'll more than likely come out of it okay.

The man who got fired was ONLY fired because the violated company policy, twice- he carried a firearm outside of his vehicle while on the clock, and he did not follow robbery protocol. If there were no policies that dealt with this specific type of incident, then it would be a "gray" area, and subject to opinion and discussion. Since there are, however, the driver was well aware of what he was doing.

As for those posts about sending drivers into bad neighborhoods, these people obviously haven't thought about handling those customers who live there. When someone calls and asks for a delivery, and you deny them because "it's a bad part of town", those people can sue you for libel. It happened once at our store: an employee refused service based on that reason, and the customer took our area (district?) manager to court. As a result, we have to keep delivering there without question, because of course, everyone in that neighborhood heard about it.

I'm glad the guy's okay, but I'd call him more lucky than brave. He happened to be quick enough to shoot his attackers before they could shoot him. And he risked his life for MAYBE $150 (policy states that drivers can only carry change for a $20, for this very reason), when it would be safe to assume he would have gotten away safely (or maybe only slightly injured, but completely compensated for medical care, time off, and the money he lost) if he had just given them what they asked for.

Specifics could be offered to determine more about the situation and the demands of the robbers, but from what we know, it just looks like an armed robbery in which the drivers happened to come out on top.