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The "Passion of Christ" in Prophecy, for Dummies

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posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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Mel Gibson's movie the Passion of Christ fulfills the prophecy about the Image of the Beast perfectly. The word used for Image in that prophecy, is Eikon, or Icon. The prophecy also say that the Image of the Beast will be worshipped all over the world as the true likeness of the Messiah. Of course if you are rightious, even if it had been the True Image of God, it would be a grave sin to even keep it of think about it. But as in this case, it should be even easier to smell the rat, or to find out who is with Jesjuah and who is against him.

Many who cry Lord Lord will be ignored that Day and cast in Hell, for they worship another Lord. Namely the Merovingean king Clovis I who converted France to Catholicism around the same time the Bishop of Rome started calling himself Pope. In return Clovis I received many gifts from Rome. Among other things, he was blessed by the pope and coronated to be Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire forever. A blessing which can be compared with how Solomon was blessed by God to eternally sit on the throne of 12-tribe Israel. Another thing he obviously received, was the honor of being depicted as Christ on all their idols. Like you see an example on below:



The Shroud of Turin cannot be any of the shrouds Jesjuah would be wrapped in, since there was a separate headpiece, separate arm pieces and so on, while the Turin shroud is a full body wrap. Nevertheless, this shroud has been regarded the shroud of Christ, and has been used as the model for nearly every Christian idol known. Down to the least detail.

The prophecy says that the False Prophet (the Pope) will make an Icon of the Beast who was slain but came to new life (the Roman Emperor, or even Csar which itself means "Severed". Julius Csar who was assasinated was the father of another Julius Csar, whom we know as Augustus. Also not long after the fall of the Roman Empire, it shot out of the ashes in new cloathes as the Holy Roman Empire). It is also said about the Pope, that he will condem anyone who will not worship this Icon to Hell. Something which seems to have been the rule until this day. These days it is the people themselves who are condemning people who critisise these icons to Hell for being stupid, evil cultist, satanistic, blasphemic and what's worse.

But the most interresting part of the Prophecy, is when the Pope orders that the Icon should be brought to life, or animated. In other words making a film displaying his Messiah, Csar Clovis I conquering death like if he was Jesjuah. That's rather horrible, and when Christians say this isn't about the Image of the Beast, I suggest they read the passages once more. Revelation 13 contains a dooming review of "the Passion of Christ".

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 25-2-2004 by Hamilton]




posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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Do You REALLY believe that stuff? Bible is just so many fairie stories.



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Do You REALLY believe that stuff? Bible is just so many fairie stories.


I can proove prophecy, and you say it is fairytales? We communicated telepathically through time and space long before anything physical existed and you say these things are bogus? To say prophecy doesn't exist is like saying language and books doesn't exist. Prophecy is communication, not makebelieve.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Hamilton

Originally posted by Apollyon
Do You REALLY believe that stuff? Bible is just so many fairie stories.


I can proove prophecy, and you say it is fairytales? We communicated telepathically through time and space long before anything physical existed and you say these things are bogus? To say prophecy doesn't exist is like saying language and books doesn't exist. Prophecy is communication, not makebelieve.

Blessings,
Mikromarius


Ok PROOVE prophecy ....



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Ok PROOVE prophecy ....


You just did. I knew that would be your only reply.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 01:48 PM
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Why call the Pope a "falce prophet"? It doesn't seem like he has been treated as one, or had any ambitions to be worshiped as the prophet... Or do I not understand the metaphore?



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 02:02 PM
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Being false means to deceive, in this case calling Mithra and Csar Jesjuah and to teach children that it is OK to break the Law of God, and that you infact SHOULD break this Law in order to be a "good Catholic" and a "good Christian". And the Pope is a prophetic office. It has always been. The Pope is the False Prophet. Allthough he is naturally not worshipped like the False Prophet. He is worshipped as the Replacement for the Son of God. The word translated worship in Revelation simply means "to bow down and kiss the ring". This is something the Pope wants you to do for him. I have seen long sessions with cueues of people waiting to kiss the ring of the Pope. They have to know that this means to worship. But then again, the same Pope has now decided that the Book of Revelation which basically condems both Rome, the Catholic Church, the Curia, the Csar, the Roman Empire, the Zodiak, Ba'al, Babylon and the icons and doctrines of the Pope.... The pope, when he understood what the Prophecy said, ordered that no Catholic father should comment on the book. It is now also regarded heretical. Go figure.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 02:19 PM
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So... who represents God today, the Pope (a really good one, compared to the ones that passed) is false, he deceives the Church, who should be followed as the one really representing the Allmighty? The one who will lead us to a better, really catholical life?



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hamilton

Originally posted by Apollyon
Ok PROOVE prophecy ....


You just did. I knew that would be your only reply.

Blessings,
Mikromarius


then this post make you a false prohpet



posted on Feb, 25 2004 @ 11:52 PM
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wow

really, it's the beast?

it and only about a half a million other things!

the beast will be something different next week

I wouldn't worry too much



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 08:50 AM
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In the fact that the Pope is to create the false image of the beast... so, using your words, here...

Mel Gibson is the Pope... huh. Who the heck is in the Vatican then?

Christ is the Beast... wow. That changes my whole outlook on the Bible now!

And even though Mik/Ham couldn't continue this line of thought on the thread that it was originally made... it is a movie!

Catholics truly worship false idols and images every day... the little plastic statues of saints, to felt print posters of Mary. Why, I would even guess those dash board buddies of Christ with outspread arms is evil, then, too. Oh, don't forget that rosemaries are bad... not only do they have a picture of Mary on them... but you are praying to the beads.

God goes by many names, "all paths lead onto me"... since we were created in God's image, then that would be likely to assume that we all look like God, or vice versa. Each of us has our own image of what God looks like.

And last time I checked... I never saw people bowing and falling to their knees in reverance in a movie theater. People know that the actor on the screen isn't Christ... hardly anybody gets to play themselves in movies, Christ wouldn't fit the part.



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Johnny
So... who represents God today, the Pope (a really good one, compared to the ones that passed) is false, he deceives the Church, who should be followed as the one really representing the Allmighty? The one who will lead us to a better, really catholical life?


The pope isn't a person. He is an office. Like a king his person is exhalted above men. Above the kings even, on a high tower above all men. What in scripture could possibly justify such in the first place? He claims to be someone he is not. He says Jesus was someone he was not and wants us all to watch the movie of Mel Gibson so we can see why we should kiss his ring. Hey, this is just so obvious, that you can't see it makes me a little scared. That kind and old man has med himself into God, and you say it's okay as long as he doesn't hurt anyone. His very office hurts more than you could ever immagine. Keeping an office like the pope would be like keeping a title such as Fhrer, Pharao or Csar. It's a disgrace. They have prooven more than enough that they are unable and unwilling to make peace. Why should we believe them now? It is them who have been killing and destroying before, and now that they have plans stopping makes everyone get the Stockholm syndrome. They love the guy who killed their forefathers and the wise, the smart, the good, everyone who threatened their position as kings on the hills.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Apollyon

Originally posted by Hamilton

Originally posted by Apollyon
Ok PROOVE prophecy ....


You just did. I knew that would be your only reply.

Blessings,
Mikromarius


then this post make you a false prohpet


False, no. But you just showed yourself as a false accuser, so why bother. Prophecy is possible, we live with it all the time. And astronomy is used to place the events in time. Simple. That's why there is a difference between Satan's astrology and God's Prophecy.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by soothsayer
In the fact that the Pope is to create the false image of the beast... so, using your words, here...

Mel Gibson is the Pope... huh. Who the heck is in the Vatican then?


No. The false prophet has among other things two horns like a Lamb, meaning two witnesses or helpers. Pope and TV go way back.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 09:41 AM
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Soooooooo as far as movie reviews go, this would be a "thumbs down" on The Passion?


Do YOU read any meaning to the actor portraying Jesus being struck by lightening then?

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by RANT]



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Do You REALLY believe that stuff? Bible is just so many fairie stories.


Apollyon, have you read any of the bible, and if so how much? If you haven't, then you're making a statement based on ignorance. Btw, I can prove the bible to be truth through different ways, in case you're interested.



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Hamilton
Pope and TV go way back.


Only for about, what, 60 years? From what I recall, the line of Popes have been around ALOT longer than that!



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 10:53 AM
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One has a choice, given by God. A man has the right to choose what he takes as good and what he takes as bad. And it is his personal opinion: some will treat the movie as a fallse idol, as you may call it, some will take it as a fine art piece.
If the first ones will be thrown to hell on the Judgement Day, it has always been their choice. And if the falce prophet has darkened their hearts and minds I believe thet God in love to all his creation will give those men another chance.

The catholic church has been developing for the two millenia it has existed, with it's ups and downs. The doctrine has changed, the institution of pope has also changed. Today, the church is more liberal in many issues, this does not mean it takes its believers on a path of evil.

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by Johnny]



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever wrapped around Jesus.
A: No.
Q: (L) Was it wrapped around somebody who was crucified?
A: No.
Q: (L) How was it made?
A: Wrapped around Roman worker.
Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?
A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.
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Apparently this is an image of an unknown Roman worker, NOT a king or Jesus.

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by lilblam]



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by lilblam
Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever wrapped around Jesus.
A: No.
Q: (L) Was it wrapped around somebody who was crucified?
A: No.
Q: (L) How was it made?
A: Wrapped around Roman worker.
Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?
A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.
====================================

Apparently this is an image of an unknown Roman worker, NOT a king or Jesus.

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by lilblam]


Yes. "Apparantly" My apologies if you've tried this but would you mind starting a thread presenting your interpretation of the Cassiowhatevers. I've tried to read their site after seeing you and others CONTINUOUSLY post these little Q & A's and can't manage it.

Willing to go on the offensive/defensive somewhere as to what the hell you think you (and they) are doing?




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