This is a thread from February that is pretty much echoing our discussion today. I mentioned my concern for oppression and being "walled-in" there
as well:
Divided views as US fence goes up
So we're trying to keep "illegal immigrants" out when they do jobs that most Americans don't want to?
There was a recent raise in fines for hiring illegal workers, courtesy of the DHS. It was something like $14,000 per employer per employee. That's
some incentive, ain't it?
What about the day workers? I see them lined up every day I'm in town, tens to hundreds of them alone in one spot. Are we going to send every single
illegal immigrant back or give them citizenship like Bush wants?
This is not the best way to deal with an immigrant problem. It would be much more effective to educate them, teach them english, and let them stay
here. We were all immigrants at one point, arguably even "native" americans. My family came here legally, but that doesn't mean all the irish and
english who came here were "legal".
Back in the day there was no border patrol, no Ellis Island to "check-in" with. People came in boats and that was that. No one turned them back.
Who are we to say, "sorry but you have to wait in your country 5 more years and pass all these tests before you're allowed in!" That's bull#.
What happened to compassion?
I guess it doesn't matter much as the DHS are building the fence anyway, despite the law (which they have proven doesn't exist when "national
security" is involved).
You know its funny. These people claim they're protecting us from the "bad guys" when it turns out the "bad guys" are more prevalent in our own
country, and they're the ones supposedly defending us from the "bad guys."
What a load of #.
Homeland Security Dept. waives laws to finish fence on U.S.-Mexican
border
The Homeland Security Department used its legal authority Tuesday to waive environmental and land management laws so it can complete 670
miles of fence along the U.S.-Mexican border.
Who needs laws right? Its not like we pretend to follow the law in this country anymore. Jackasses.
The waivers will allow the department to move ahead with miles of pedestrian- and vehicle-fence construction as well as roads and detection
systems.
Homeland Security, under orders from Congress to build the fence, has run into intense opposition along the border from landowners, ranchers and
environmentalists. Many didn't want their land taken or for wildlife and rare species to be disturbed.
"Criminal activity at the border does not stop for endless debate or protracted litigation," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said.
"The waivers will enable important security projects to keep moving forward."
The DHS took land from ranchers, the BLM (bureau of land management), Parks Service, and is going to ruin miles of land to build their gestapoesque
fence.
Nazi Germany here we come! I get to be the first in the gas chamber, I called it!
Environmental Laws to be waived for fence
The Bush administration will waive more than 30 environmental and land-management laws in order to finish building 470 miles of border fence in
the Southwest by the end of the year, officials said yesterday.
The move, permitted under an exemption granted by Congress, will be the most sweeping use of the administration's waiver authority since it started
building the fence to curb illegal immigration. It will affect environmentally sensitive areas in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
I really despise the government more and more when they make moves like this.
Keep all of us in, and keep those bad guys out. That'll protect us...
[edit on 4/2/2008 by biggie smalls]
Sure the communists may have said that as some sort of propaganda ploy, but even the most simple-minded now
understand that the wall was to keep their people from escaping to the West and a better life. 
