Seal slaughter in Canada, page 1
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reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 05:56 PM by WuTang
There is a lot more to do with this than just the baby seals. Many (almost all coastal) northeastern villages entire economies' depend on the seal hunt, which they have been participating in for hundreds of years. Although the seal hunt is am large issue, it pains me to see how little respect our peoples of the north and their culture get from people, based on the fact that seals are cute. People have been surviving (and hunting seal) in the arctic/subarctic long before any Europeans ever showed up in North America, and now it is our right (as people who have never lived in the arctic/SA) to tell these people how to live?

I am not saying that the seal hunt is right or wrong, but for gods sake keep in mind that peoples food, heating oil, and ultimately the roofs over their heads are dependent on this hunt.

If anything, these people absolutely need to be provided with an alternative means of income before any steps are taken to quell the hunt.

But hey, seals are cute, so these people should not be allowed to feed there families through this. They should be shipped south into a rez so the ignorant natives don't do any more damage to their environment (/sarcasm).

EDITED: I never knew the seal hunt took place only in ATL waters, I thought the hunt extended much more to the NW and into the Arctic ocean. I guess the anti hunt propaganda (all over bus stops here for some reason) is filling my head with unnaccurate information.

Here is a great non biased story on the hunt from CBC that includes the facts agreed on by both sides of the hunt issue.

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reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 06:07 PM by vox2442
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You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Unfortunately, it doesn`t matter. The counter to all of those statements is banter about "moving forward", "joining the community of nations", government subsidies, economic replacement with baby seal watching tours, and so forth. I wonder if sea shepherd will make an appearance this year?


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 06:53 PM by Vanitas
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I am not talking about "cute", WuTang.
(I am not THAT fascist.)

I am talking about LIFE being willfully, arbitrarily - AND with brutal sadism - taken away from animals who have every right to live, regardless of how inconvenient that may be for Homo ignorans - the only animal on this Earth who really needs "culling" (and dutifully gets on with it every single day, but that should not concern other living creatures).







[edit on 28-3-2008 by Vanitas]


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 07:04 PM by WuTang
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How about when every seal willfully eats a cod.

According to your arguement (the preservation of life), we should extinct the seals, as one seal over its lifetime must slaughter 1000s of cod in its never ending quest to satisfy it's greedy belly. I find cod to be an amazing animal and value its life over those greedy mammals, who violently slaughter schools of this wonderful creature.

That is right, I can write paragraphs of rhetoric too. I can emphasize words that make people think negatively about the issue at hand without inserting any real information or logic into the discussion.

To deny any animal the right to kill any other would be to deny nature. Maybe you should shift the focus of your arguement towards how many seals are killed vs how many these people need to hunt to sustain themselves (are they overhunting?).

Inserting rhetoric about how killing animals is wrong does nothing to help either side of this debate (although the ads on my bus stops beg to differ).


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 07:08 PM by intrepid
Originally posted by intrepid
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Do you eat fish? How about veal? Pork anyone?



Would you mind answering my questions?


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 12:13 PM by Cynic
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Not at al Intrepid. AS a matter of fact, I support the cull.


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 12:20 PM by intrepid
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Not at al Intrepid. AS a matter of fact, I support the cull.


Sorry, I was referring to Vanitas. For some reason my "reply to" button isn't working.


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 12:34 PM by QBSneak000
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Seals are very prolific. The cull is necessary to ensure the fish stocks are not further depleted. And yes, there are some that don't kill the animals properly. Enforcing that is damn near impossible though.


I have to agree with Intrepid on this one. You also have to realize that for starters, humans are the cause of natures unbalance. We have taken more than we need for survival over the years because of greed and $.
So now we try to balance it out by culling masses of animals so others may survive. I don't agree with harming any animal yet I do like a good BBQ steak every once and a while.

Hmmm maybe the answer to all our problems is the cloning of all the life stock that is near extinction. Providing it was proven to be safe, I would eat a slab of meat grown in a lab as opposed to killing the original species to fulfill my meatatarian needs.

There are two sides to every argument and I can see the point on both sides of this one.

[edit on 29-3-2008 by QBSneak000]
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