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But clicking on a link in a post that is clearly labeled child porn gives plenty of proof toward committing a crime.
I never said one was guilty until proven innocent either. My statement of innocence can be proven with your pc seemed pretty clear but I’ll try again. They cannot prove you had intent to commit the crime as long as you hard drive is your witness. Your hard drive is the best witness you have in such an event of your innocence.
I never said you might not be arrested either, but unless they can prove intent they really can’t convict you either.
You may be charged but those will be dropped it will not take long for a defense attorney to ask them to prove the intent or drop the charges.
I will not go to jail for your actions as there is no proof that I committed the crime.
But if you get into a wreck with my car you are the one that will be in trouble.
Run a red light and get caught on camera if it can see your face I can fight the ticket.
You would need to ask for the stuff from someone and have them send it if they are undercover then you’re in trouble if not you are safe for now.
Protecting yourself and your computer might not be a crime but it is stupid not to do. Think of your computer like your house or car. Would you just leave either of those open for just anyone to use? In today’s world your computer is almost an extension of yourself. You can tell a lot about a person by what is on the hard drive.
Also if I were on a jury and was asked to rule in favor of a lawsuit over such a charge and the person was proven to be innocent I most certainly would award them money.
Another example for you though. If a drug dealer comes to me and offers drug and I buy and get arrested that is entrapment. If I go searching for a drug dealer and buy drugs and get arrested that is not. The difference is the searching for or it being brought to you. In this case you would be searching for child porn, see the links and click them believing there was child porn at the end of it.
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
It's the lesser of two evils. If I had to choose between someone watching child pornography, and that person actually harming a child, I would choose them watching it.
Originally posted by C0le
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
Are you suggesting that child predators only molest children because of supply and demand?
Children are exploited regardless of rather it gets put online or not, these are sickos, Having an audience has nothing at all to do with it... it doesn't influence or stop it in either scenario...
Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by ANOK
And you are failing to see the obvious fact that if the link is not labeled correctly they cannot prove you had intent to commit a crime.
You can link things all day long. A simple properties search of the link will reveal it’s true destination.
Again if the link is labeled say as “huggy bears” and I happened to click it they have no case against me. They cannot prove I had the intent to commit the crime unless they can show that
But a link that is labeled as 4yo_sucking in a post talking about a 4yo having sex with an adult man is another story. No jury in their right mind would not convict someone for following such on obvious link.
If you are worried about getting it in an email, and you do happen to click before checking you simply inform the police that you are being sent illegal porn and given them the email address from which it came. It is illegal to knowingly send or receive not to receive without knowledge. By knowingly they would have to show intent to commit the crime, meaning if it is not clear in the email what the link involves you are in the clear.
Technically any law can be abused you could be pulled over, ticketed and fined for 1 MPH over the posted limit. Chances are it would be thrown out since your speedometer is most likely off that much anyway, depending on the exact conditions of your car and tires. I would consider that abuse though others may not.
Originally posted by HellHound63S
reply to post by ANOK
Sorry dude you fell directly in my little ideoligy trap...
Originally posted by HellHound63S
@ Lucid Lunacy- Do you understand what librataian means? Do you understand what socialism means?
Its makes as much sence as if you said your a child-rights advocate/ childmolester! Socialism is anti-liberty, liberty is anti-socialist. Cool avatar but I think one of those words definitions may have been lost on you. Liberty is not anarchy either, sorry. To thine own self be true!
But having said that I didn't mention that it was my service to this country, the USA, that gave me the bone disease in the first place, not that they'll admit to it. So you still don't think this country is responsible for my being able to feed and house myself? I'll tell ya, no one is getting rich on $900 a month buddy. If I hadn't served this country I could be working and making money, damned if you do and damned if you don't...
Also your claim that America is the most generous country is arrogant bollox...
Originally posted by HellHound63S
@lucid lunecy- Not a personal attack, an inquisitive inquiery. Your for anarchy but you make fun of those not held down by the rules of spelling, set up by "the man"?
The wiki link set me straight, on your philosiphy, I hadn't heard thet term before. it seems relavent to the topic to me
Originally posted by apc
Child porn and terrorism... two of the most successful boogey-man campaigns to strip people of their liberty and destroy the lives of the innocent.
You could argue that someone who might not otherwise steal a car would succumb to the temptation of a hot ride with the keys in the ignition; you can't argue that if somebody clicks on a kiddie porn link, that's exactly what they're looking for.
Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by hikix
Somehow I think FBI is targeting people who look at porn of individuals younger than teens.