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Woman, Son Shot By Cop Leave Hospital

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posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 10:37 AM

Woman, Son Shot By Cop Leave Hospital

OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- A woman and her 8-year-old son who were shot by an off-duty police officer have been released from the hospital.
The pair had been hospitalized since the shooting last Saturday in a Lowe's parking lot 150 block of Old Grove Road in Oceanside. The extent of their injuries has not been released to the public. Police have said the woman was unarmed during the incident.
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posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 10:37 AM
An off-duty cop involved in a "road rage" incident, fires into the other vehicle, striking a woman and her 8 yr old son.

And the Oceanside Police are being very tight-lipped about the situation.

They won't currently divulge who was the initial aggressor in the road rage episode, nor will CCTV video of the shooting be "released to the public."

A couple of good questions were raised in a local oped piece:

* What did the officer tell investigators?

* Why did he allegedly use potentially deadly force?
North County Times | Five days, few answers from our cops

Additionally, from the same piece:

Through its spokesman, the Oceanside department defends being relatively mum by noting it doesn't want to "try this in the court of public opinion."

However, in the past, when a civilian has been the focus of a shooting of an officer, law enforcement agencies seem eager to divulge the investigation's developments

Good points indeed.

We'll have to be patient and see what comes of the investigation, before reaching any conclusions in this case.

It'll be interesting to see who did what to whom, and when.

But considering the recent increase in the news lately of cases of police misconduct, perhaps one should not hold their breath.

Let's hope for a breach in the "Blue Code of Silence" here soon...
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 23-3-2008 by goosdawg]

posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 11:33 AM
The cop said hello im a Freemason heres my ID the other freemason said O goody your off scott free now would you like a paid vacation and a promotion for shooting the 8 yr old child.

yes i would sir.

boom he will be sgt next spring making america proud officer.

because everyones a criminal if your not wearing a badge how else are we supposed to tell who the good guys are.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by NWOmaskedman]

posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 12:26 PM
Thats ok a friend of mine and her family went to a car show in Temecula,a drunk off duty cop picked fight with 18 yr old kid,got his ass kicked so he pulled out his service revolver and murdered him,he hasn't even been arrested,seems cops these days are quick on pulling guns,so I guess shooting some kid should be ok for cops to do?,no wonder people have dim view of cops,now they shoot 1st ask questions later

posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:05 PM
Or the recent video of an off duty drunk cop going behind the counter off a restraunt and beating the living daylights out of the poor girl working there while everyone else stood there and watched in awe?

If you think you can get away with murder your more likely to murder IMO.

posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 02:44 PM
reply to post by Oldtimer2

Yeah, I heard about that:

TEMECULA -- The off-duty Costa Mesa police officer who shot and killed a Temecula man Saturday night in Old Town was hit from behind, possibly with a metal chair, then attacked by several men before he fired the fatal shots, investigators said Tuesday.
thecalifornian | Details released in Temecula shooting


Shaun Vilan, the 30-year-old man shot to death by an off-duty Costa Mesa police officer in Temecula on Saturday night, spent six years in state prison after he was convicted of two unprovoked assaults in which he smashed a beer bottle in someone's face, according to court records.

In Vilan's trial, Riverside Superior Court also admitted as evidence accounts of four other unprovoked attacks for which he didn't face charges. In four of those incidents, Vilan and his friends beat up on people they outnumbered, documents say. Vilan had been out of prison for two and a half years.

The Costa Mesa police officer, whose name has not been disclosed, suffered a gash on his head that took six staples to close.

The officer appears to have acted in self-defense when he shot and killed Vilan and injured another during a fight outside a popular Temecula restaurant, according to a preliminary investigation by Riverside sheriff's investigators. A full investigation could take some time as investigators try to piece together how Vilan ended up dead in a fight that unfolded in front of dozens of people, including his 7-year-old son.
ocregister | Man shot by O.C. officer did prison time for beer-bottle assaults

He was no angel, sorry if he was a friend of yours.

More details concerning his earlier scrapes can be found here:

dui1 | People v. Vilan | 10/24/2001

But thanks for providing an example as to how the release of information in these two cases have been handled differently.

Of course, the information on Shaun Vilan's priors were already in the public record, and it was picked up by the media within days of the incident.

But notice how it came to light very quickly that the Costa Mesa officer was attacked, according to the investigators.

But in the OP case, they haven't even released the victim's name as of this writing.

Which gives rise to the question: If the young mother or her son had died as a result of the shooting, would her personal information now have been all over the media?

And how would it be painted?

As this story unfolds, it will be important to determine the motivations of all the parties involved.

Especially the off-duty officer, and the tight-lipped investigators.

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