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RCMP Traffic Services –Automatic License Plate Recognition (ALPR) technology ( another step toward

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posted on Mar, 19 2008 @ 05:00 PM

RCMP Traffic Services –Automatic License Plate Recognition (ALPR) technology ( another step towards a NWO)

How does ALPR work;

License plates of interest (hotlist) are downloaded to the onboard computer
Hotlists are comprised of - stolen license plates, plates associated to stolen vehicles, prohibited drivers, unlicensed drivers, uninsured vehicles, etc,
The ALPR equipped vehicle is deployed on public streets and parking lots, indiscriminately capturing images of mobile and parked vehicles that enter the camera’s field of view
If the license plate from the image is found on any of the Hotlists,
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posted on Mar, 19 2008 @ 05:00 PM
Just another step towards the NWO, big brother or whatever you would like to call it.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Mar, 19 2008 @ 05:01 PM
How on earth is this NWO? It's just doing what the cops do, but automating it.

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 02:05 AM
reply to post by chromatico

I think the point here is that this technology can be used in more than one way. The one in which you and the article suggest is one way; the other is quite the opposite. Theoretically, they could use this technology to track you wherever you go, whether you want them to or not.

I guess the question is, would you like someone to follow you wherever you go?



posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 03:23 AM
I thought we'd had this here in the UK for ages now? Or is is it in the US?

Either way, not really stuff of the NWO, police are going to always be updating thier technology now and again. All this means is it's done automatically instead of them radioing in a plate for checking.


posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 04:05 AM
We've had this in the UK for some time, the police even let private companies use this in the cities so that they can catch people who haven't paid their parking fines or the Toll to get into London

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 04:19 AM
Pretty cool tech, but yeah it does have some potential abuses and knowing greedy money grubbing City's, with large LEA's pushing their power tripping LEO's will no doubt use this new tool to abuse citizens and generate more revenue.

KOMOTV - Officers are using cameras that can read up to 10 license plates per second and check them against a database of stolen vehicles.
All they need to do is adjust the database to whatever fits their agenda.

Yes, it is being used in the U.S. as you can see
here in this KOMO4 News Video

While they are being sold to the public & LEA"s as a way to catch car thieves or recover stolen cars, a reason most of us can agree is great.

However there is a dark side. Essentially they could set these up and monitor the traffic flows until they have hits for unpaid violations etc. and when they generate a hit bam, you done for like Tom Cruise's character in the Movie Minority Report where his eyes get scanned and because the system has flagged him as a fugitive his car is disabled and all police are alerted to his position.

I'm sure City's will love this as a way to catch FTA bench warrant folks who haven't paid traffic tickets or impound vehicle's for unpaid parking violations. No doubt it will be seen as a way to increase City Revenues.

The Reality of it is it is the Beginnings of Controlled movement of people who use automobiles. It is a filter that will net those who are not in complete compliance with all laws, taxes etc. Almost makes going through the TSA to get on a flight start to look like a walk in the park compared to driving as we can still get on a plane with unpaid tickets, taxes, warrants etc.

Either be in compliance or you will have free movement no longer.

From a law enforcement perspective it makes their job easier and it's a more efficient use of their time & our tax dollars, but it opens the door for more efficient ways to rob us of our dollars and hold us and our cars hostage.

Recently we have had new Laws that require us to replace our license plates every 7 years. I suspect this technology had a part in their reasoning for this new law in order that their scanners can read our plates well.

I'm wondering if those infrared LED's around the plates will thwart this technology? As discussed in this thread. As the computers are reading 10 plates a second it would likely ignore unreadable plates in order to maintain its usefulness.

Amazing how they originally came up with license plates in order to tax us to drive on the roads. Then that tax wasn't enough and they came up with gas taxes to drive on the road. Now they use their TAX device as a means to imprison us, so they can make ever more money and smile about it while telling us its for the protection of our property.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 10:35 AM
reply to post by TheBorg

With all due respect, that logic is ridiculously flawed
If we are to deny the use of any technology or method that can be misused, we wouldn't have a police force, as cops can be corrupt. We wouldn't have police cars, as they could be used to follow people. We wouldn't have armed police as they could use their guns on innocent people. The list goes on.

If a society has adequate protection in place to ensure technology like this isn't mis-used, then it's great, as it means it saves society money on policing, and makes our police forces even more efficient.

It's being used in the UK (where it's called ANPR), and it allows the police to identify suspect cars very accurately.

I'm sure if your car was stolen you'd want a police cruiser to identify it just by being on the same stretch of road as it for a few seconds.

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 11:00 AM
oh my god. What can we do!? It's as if the NWO is right around the corner!

How will I stop the cops from scanning my plate? Maybe I'll cover it with a paper bag.. yeah, thats the ticket, I'll cover it with a paper bag. They'll never even know. Those cops, they have nothing better to do then to scan my plate. I'm innocent I tell you. I didn't do anything. It's a violation of all my rights to have my plates scanned.

digital cameras, they need to be banned to. They can be used to create child porn. So much misuse of technology. Guns can be used to kill people! OMG! The NWO is coming soon. I read a news story that said computers can actually be used to hack credit card information! we need to get rid of them, it's abuse and misuse of technology.


However there is a dark side. Essentially they could set these up and monitor the traffic flows until they have hits for unpaid violations etc. and when they generate a hit bam,

How is that a dark side to anyone but a criminal who doesn't pay their tickets?

Pretty cool tech, but yeah it does have some potential abuses and knowing greedy money grubbing City's, with large LEA's pushing their power tripping LEO's will no doubt use this new tool to abuse citizens and generate more revenue.

Can you name one thing that doesn't have a potential for abuse?

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 11:37 AM
people who can't pay aren't always 'criminals'. my goodness.

there can be mailing screw-ups, people lending their cars to other people, budget problems(i always make sure the landlord gets paid first), ....i'm sure there are many more reasons to not pay tickets that are not 'criminal'.

this is one further step towards a police state. it's like robocop..."you have five seconds to comply"....
automating 'justice' is not a good idea, IMO. laws are open to interpretation, or we wouldn't have lawyers, jury, judge and court. machines are indiscriminate.

you realise that in the 'imagined' nightmarish NWO police state, you needn't be 'guilty' of any crime to be unpopular with the people behind the surveillance cameras and GPS tracking devices. your 'crime' that gets you targeted and taken out(deemed a non-citizen with no rights) could be merely your political opinion or spreading of 'anarchist' ideals(ie. not liking agreeing people should be under surveillance 24 hrs. a day by nameless, faceless automatons).

if i go try and take 15, 000 dollars in cash out of the bank, i will be flagged as a potential terrorist, because of the post 9/11 POLICE STATE laws. i might NEED 15, 000 cash for something. it is not for the STATE to say what i do with my money, and how much i can carry around. not in a 'free society', anyway.
so, i go get my cash, get into my car to guy buy a wheelchair access van for my poor, sick mother, and i get stopped, interrogated, dragged downtown to spend the night in the hoosegow, just because i wanted to use cash, or the seller insisted on cash.

or, i bang the mayor's wife(she is HOT!) a few times, and the next thing i know my bank account shows zero, and i'm branded a terrorist.

there would be thousands of similiar stories of the innocent being targeted by the absolutely corrupted holders of absolute power.

luckily for 'them', sheeple have 'nothing to hide'.

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by billybob

So you want to use the inefficiency of the police as some sort of safety barrier to ensure individuals' rights?? That's one of the most insane ideas I've heard on ATS, including "Electric Aliens".

If you've got unpaid parking tickets on your car, it's your duty to sort them out, regardless of if it was you who got them, your friend, Frosty the Snowman, Satan, or Spongebob Squarepants. It's your car, your ticket.

The law of parking tickets, car registration, and car insurance is not "open to interpretation". You either have an unpaid parking ticket, or you don't. You either have registration, or you don't. You either have insurance, or you don't. Citing the fact we have judges and juries to interpret the laws is also a bit silly, as their role is to determine guilt, not to interpret how applicable the laws are.

If you're scared the cops will misuse this, then the problem isn't this technology, but your police force, or your perception of them. This ridiculous mentality of "oh it could be abused so let's not use it, instead of fixing these organisations that don't do what they're supposed to" is self-defeatest, as if we follow it to its logical conclusions, we can trust no-one. We'd have to live in isolated caves, living off the land, never progressing as a society, as anything and everything can be misused. Heck - you could abuse someone else's freedom or the law, so by your logic, you can't be trusted to exist.

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Ree
How is that a dark side to anyone but a criminal who doesn't pay their tickets?

billybob - people who can't pay aren't always 'criminals'. my goodness.

Thank you, billybob for being astute.

Almost everyone who drives is eventually subject to a traffic or parking ticket. In the past if one had an unpaid fine they would in time have to pay it otherwise the fines would multiply and eventually in order to renew their licenses they would have to pay the fine first. That method still allowed you freedom to drive to work to pay your bills, buy grocery's etc.

Now with this new technology it allows the State to put itself above all others by immediately hindering your ability to freely live, move about and do your daily routines of working & providing for yourself & loved ones or just feel free when traveling without being molested by another intrusion by the state.

Thus it is dark because it is an unwanted & unnecessary intrusion into our lives as the state is/will attempt to place its importance in our lives above all else (eventually). Not the kind of world most freedom loving folks want to live in.

That's really the gist of it isn't it. We live in a society where more and more it's easily excepted that we're all criminals until proven otherwise after passing through the criminal filter nets. Controlled movements - just like we use in our prisons.

For those of you commenting from places other than America, consider that, in most of America driving is essential as we don't have good public transport like Europe or Japan. I lived in Europe & I used a car less then 10 percent of the time when I traveling for both work & play - so it's not essential to have a car there.

Our infrastructure and lives revolve around the use of our autos, thus I see this as a greater threat in America than elsewhere.

In the past we have reluctantly accepted much abuse and excessive taxation through the use revenue generating parking fines & traffic infractions, because its intrusion into our lives was minimal, now when coupled with new technology it has changed our perspective of these overburdening revenue generating fines as their importance in our lives has suddenly been raised and we see many red flags.

If NWO's definition of Criminals are Freedom Loving People then I will gladly embrace being a Criminal thorn in their side. Come to Papa NWOMF's!

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 03:36 PM
reply to post by dave420

i've been beaten by cops with absolutely no provacation. zero. nada. none. didn't bat an eyebrow, but they tackled me and shackled me.
i've been told i couldn't walk on a street if i didn't live there.
i've been told i could not leave a protest parade's route to walk down a public road.

police in quebec dressed up like radicals with bandanas over their faces, picked up rocks and tried to provoke violence with the (riot) police line at a recent G8 summit.

i've seen all the recent taser-happy videos.

i have no reason to trust cops. they have an 'us vs. them' mentality. if you're not a cop, you're 'little people'. they serve and protect big money's interest.

some cops are good, but far too many are power drunk monsters just looking for an excuse to whack someone.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by billybob]

posted on May, 14 2008 @ 03:24 AM
reply to post by billybob

yeah its gotta stop we live in a #ed up world, google earth and the whole bit. love that comment about sheeple!!!!

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