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Originally posted by helatrobus
Could we have a response and clarification on some of those questions?
[edit on 28-2-2008 by helatrobus]
I understand this is a conspiracy site and certain groups will be the target of claims. I don't have a problem with that. But when the group is made up of individuals with no leadership, each working off his/her own conscience towards a common cause then you are attacking individuals.
Originally posted by helatrobus
reply to post by undo
Yes, your opinion is ok. You can choose what is right for you. For me personally, i don't run on fear. I run on Love.
I'm not saying that's what you are doing. It's just a lot of those comments were "what ifs" And if i let them enter my heart i may as well not walk down the street I would be that afraid.
So feel free to walk your path, i'll walk mine.
However, the discussion is not about personal opinions.
The focus at this point in time is about defamination and why it shouldn't be included in the future. Once we cleared that up then we need to get back to the discussion at hand.
And thankyou for not holding onto pride...
I have been told that the items popularly known as the "Aussie Bloke Hoax" and "ET False Flag" are among the known pattern injection operations.
Originally posted by neformore
Originally posted by helatrobus
Could we have a response and clarification on some of those questions?
[edit on 28-2-2008 by helatrobus]
People have opinions. They may be right, they may be wrong, but this is the internet where anyone can claim to be anything and, more importantly, this is ATS where such things get discussed.
2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.
mob mentality has not had a good track record in times past.
that's not a matter of fear, it's a matter of reading history.
i realize the goal is noble from your perspective, problem is,
is it really if it ends up depriving people of their other basic rights,
such as free practice of their religion without interference?
(is it a religion?)
Originally posted by NGC2736
Isn't it such irony that the poster right after the T&C was discussed on the thread had to have his post removed because it contained offensive and abusive language? Note his screen name, which would lead one to think that he has ties/intentions in stride with others here.
Originally posted by neformore
You won't get anyone from ATS coming onto 4Chan, suggesting that you run it in a different way, arguing about how you Sage your undesirable discussions away, screaming censorship when it happens and suggesting that OSA agents are working together to dismiss valid discussions and get them off the channel. To do so would be grossly unfair and would undermine the way that the people their do business.
Originally posted by undo
i know what your saying, believe me.
the problem in a nutshell is this: have you ever read a story about a person falsely accused of crimes and imprisoned, only to find out 30 years later that the person was innocent? or the people on death row who were executed by the state only to find out they didn't commit the crime they were executed for (which is one of the reasons i don't agree with the death penalty). i have seen some of these true life stories.
now i'm not saying that these people you're protesting are not guilty nor that they are guilty. what i'm saying is, this is the reason we have systems of law. if we go vigilante, we lose perspective and become puppets of even crazier people than the ones we are protesting, because without a system of checks and balances, it becomes a mob.
Do you dare? Can you report back on wether you think it is a mob or not.
I have been called to task for using the KKK as an example. I was told that by doing so, I was unfairly and meanly comparing "anon" to them. While at the time I was showing the extreme end of the behavior pattern of the faceless mob, and not slandering anyone, the example holds true.
Originally posted by NGC2736
reply to post by intrepid
And therein lies another problem of hiding in the shadows. Every home that burns, your torch is blamed. Just another way the mob can be manipulated.
Originally posted by undo
Do you dare? Can you report back on whether you think it is a mob or not.
I've watched most of the videos taken of the protests. They seemed benign enough with the exception of following a scientology member to the front door of the building and assailing the individual with a battery of questions and negative comments. It reminded me of paparazzi chasing down a movie star or politician to get the scoop, but with a bit more neighborhood bullies approach: taunting, that kind of thing.
Originally posted by kinglizard
Please keep all comments on topic. If you have an issue with a moderator you should feel free to file a complaint making all staff including the owners aware of your issue.
Thanks....