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Hillary's healthcare plan, orwellian in nature

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posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 01:17 PM
Anyone see Hillary's recent healthcare plan ? She mentioned it about a week ago on her campaign trail. It scares the heck out of me.

She calls for automatic deductions from anyone deemed able to afford the plan (its a national plan so most must have it).

She calls for MANDATORY health exams

She calls for MANDATORY mental evaluations as well.

This is truly frightning to me. Whats next, mandatory meds for us as well ? Being sent to a psych ward because I must be insane for thinking 9-11 was an inside job ?

This is just another step closer to total slavery in my opinion. And yet none of my family is aware of this and the ones Ive told dont see the threat in being forced to see a doctor

The only person Ive even convinced this is a bad idea is my neighbor and thats because I predicted two years ago that Hillary would be our next President due to her visit to the Bildeberger conference (and its obvious she will be elected now).

I feel like Im swimming upstream and the current keeps getting stronger. While I struggle to keep my head above water, others around me are willingly letting themselves drown. And whats worse, they dont seem to mind

posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 01:20 PM

Originally posted by admriker444...Whats next, mandatory meds for us as well ? Being sent to a psych ward because I must be insane for thinking 9-11 was an inside job ?

Consider that nail hit on the head. You're much easier to "reprogram" if you're pumped full of their drugs.

posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 04:27 PM
I consider my own physical and "mental" health to be noone's business but my own. I take responsibility for my own health; I accept the fact that I live and die by my own choices (duh, right?) Noone knows my own body better than I do.

I agree with your perspective admriker444. I definitely do not approve of this plan as I think it would take some our own responsibilities away from us, and in doing so would render us less free.

posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 04:30 PM

Originally posted by admriker444
She calls for automatic deductions from anyone deemed able to afford the plan (its a national plan so most must have it).

I see this as mainly her wonderful Socialist outlook on life.

Everyone pays, but even if you don't have the cash, you still get the medical coverage.

posted on Feb, 8 2008 @ 02:31 AM
reply to post by jerico65

And the goverment decides if you can afford the plan or not.

Personally I dont want the goverment making decisions about my health and this will surely happen with this plan by Hillary.

I could see a future where the local pizza delivery company refuses to sell me a pizza because at my last mandatory exam I was told I had high blood pressure. The goverment under the guise of wanting to protect me (more like protecting their bottom line) would forbid anyone from selling me food from a banned list.

I might be subjected to weekly blood test to ensure Im taking the meds I was prescribed. Nevermind if there are horrible side effects or if some pharmaceutical giant is getting rich of their no-bid contract...I must take those meds.

This is truly orwellian in nature. I fear for my childrens' future.

posted on Feb, 8 2008 @ 08:48 PM
I fear my grandchildren will not recognize anything in the U.S. that looks even similar to the U.S. I grew up in. Mandatory health checkups. That disgusts me. If I feel bad I will go to the doctor. If the doctor gives me advice I should be free to take it or leave it. And as long as I am paying the bill, which under the Clinton plan I would be, then I demand the right to do as I please with my personal health. After all, a woman is free to do what she wants with her body in relation to a living human inside her, or partially inside her, then I should be free to do what I want with my own body as well.

posted on Feb, 8 2008 @ 09:40 PM
It's interesting that it's referred to as 'socialist' system whenever universal health care is mentioned. America is really the only country in the world that wants capitalism to be the decider of people's health.

Can't have the government accountable for health care, no, best to leave up to corporations who's first and foremost interest is their bottom line.

Health check ups are nothing to fear. If you let yourself go, you end up having to pay more for treatment - what's better, finding a cancer in the early stages and having it removed, or having to pay for a funeral?

posted on Feb, 9 2008 @ 02:19 PM
reply to post by mattguy404

Its about freedom my friend. I dont want a govt official deciding for me to see a doctor.

And no I dont want a socialized medical system run by our govt. Look at how well our govt takes care of us...

1. Katrina - it took the govt 4 days to find and get water to people who were on tv asking for it.

2. forced sterilization programs - nice eugenics movement started by our fascist friends the rockefellers. They took anyone deemed "unfit" to breed and sterlized them, many of which werent even told.

3. injecting citizens with syphalis - US Army injects black soldiers and black civilians with an std and fails to tell them what it actually was. And worse, they withhold treatment so they can study the effects. They watched these citizens suffer and die horrible deaths like lab animals.

4. injecting citizens with plutonium

5. releasing viruses over populated cities

6. burning toxic waste on govt sites

7. allowing corporations to dump flouride in the water then later convincing us its a good thing

8. agent orange - used to spray the jungles of vietnam to kill the foliage. Oh and it causes awful cancers but it took 30 years and several lawsuits to get the govt to admit the stuff was bad for us. Of course it doesnt matter now since most of the vets exposed are dead but at least the govt doesnt have to pay out benefits now

9. Gulf War syndrome - from agent orange we now have gulf war syndrome. Its most likely linked to the depleted uranium shells being used now by the US military. We see history repeat itself as the govt denies any such illness or any problems with uranium shells. And in 30 years when everyone is dead a study will prove conclusively that umm yes exposure to depleted uranium is bad for us

Those are just a few of the many examples of how well our govt takes care of us. Maybe its just me, but I would prefer to take care of myself...I'll live longer

posted on Feb, 9 2008 @ 02:22 PM
Is not a plan where the Government can pick and choose who gets the better treatment scary to anyone? At least in private hands there not a chance for a big brother to make all the decisions.

posted on Feb, 9 2008 @ 02:28 PM
Given the source of the OP, I'm not sure about the truth of the 'MANDATORY' nature of physical and psychological exams. I'll did deeper into those points.

But there is one verifiable aspect to her plan that I do find very disturbing-- centralized electronic medical records. Now THAT is something to be deeply concerned about.

[edit on 9-2-2008 by loam]

posted on Feb, 12 2008 @ 09:29 PM
Why can't the government LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING

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