The imperfections of the human race, page 1
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reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:10 AM by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
reply to post by Boondock78



Hay Boondock long time no speak ...hope all is going better for you since we last spoke and a happy new year to you .

Its is a wonder to me how we are unlike any other species on earth we are IMO the most unperfect of all "Gods" creatures why is this?

Sure we can build great citys we can even build the perfect home or car...yet us our selfs as humans are far from perfect why is this ?

Maybe it is true and we are a long way from being fully evolved.



reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:23 AM by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
reply to post by kacou



Could you please post some links to your other threads please, id be intrested in reading them

cheers

PS so your basicly saying that humas DNA is junk ...that kinda explains a lot of what ive been thinking


reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:29 AM by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
reply to post by Boondock78



You say that whales can hear for something like 80 miles......what about the human eye it can see a billion light years into the past...........just look at any star in the sky.


We humas consider ourseves to be perfect but again we are from perfect compared to every other species on earth...even a rock is more perfect than a human IMO. Its a rock it is what it is a perfect rock.

maybe we are so inbread that we are junk as the above poster implies?

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reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:34 AM by kacou
reply to post by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H



That the link of the thread.
www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=kacou

If you like to know more about some unconventional theory about our origin then I invite you to visit this link below.
www.slavespecies.com...
I have read the book (Slave Species of gods) but you can download the first chapter that deal with DNA.

Kacou



reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:38 AM by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
reply to post by kacou



Thanks im reading them now .....hopefully ill learn something

cheers


reply posted on 23-3-2009 @ 07:52 PM by SamuraiDrifter
Originally posted by AshleyD
According to evolution, mankind is still improving genetically through mutations and natural selections, as are all species. On the other end of the spectrum, The Bible alludes to our genes as being in a diminishing, degenerative state.

Mankind is not "improving genetically." Evolution has no goal and more complex organisms are not necessarily superior to more primitive forms. Also, where in the Bible does it say that or even mention genes?

Also, why do we have animals that seemingly have no real defense mechanism compared to those who do? Rabbits, mice, gerbils, etc. Why don't we all have some sort of almost indestructible defense mechanism through natural selection?

Rabbits, mice, and gerbils do have defense mechanisms- being very fast and living primarily underground. Gerbils as you know them have been selectively bred for captivity. Obviously no defense mechanism is indestructible because predators are constantly evolving to catch the prey.

Man has intellect as our strength but put us in the ring with a shark, lion, or bear with only physical strength and we're basically screwed. Why don't we all have quills, fangs, claws, wings, venom, etc.? Hopefully someone can answer this logically.
Each animal has evolved specifically to its niche, and not all defense mechanisms are compatible with every form/lifestyle organisms are adapted to. Furthermore, intellect is a far superior weapon to the things you mentioned.


reply posted on 23-3-2009 @ 08:00 PM by tankthinker
reply to post by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H



perfection is a point-of-view, a perception, therefore to strive for it and ask why we are not is a illogical question

you cannot say a shark is perfect for killing in the water because for one you are not a shark and second you are not a killer (as far as i know)

and besides if they were perfect they would be the masters of the sea, and lions the masters of the land

also nulling th above argument how do you not know that we are not perfect already, fro exactly what we are supposed to be doing???


reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 12:48 AM by Astyanax
Originally posted by AshleyD
Why do we have animals that seemingly have no real defense mechanism compared to those who do? Rabbits, mice, gerbils, etc. Why don't we all have some sort of almost indestructible defense mechanism through natural selection?

Man has intellect as our strength but put us in the ring with a shark, lion, or bear with only physical strength and we're basically screwed. Why don't we all have quills, fangs, claws, wings, venom, etc.? Hopefully someone can answer this logically.

Hi, AshleyD. Congratulations on your appointment.

As SamuraiDrifter pointed out, evolution isn't directed towards continuous improvement. It just looks that way sometimes, and the reason it looks that way is that natural selection can turn evolution into an arms race - between predator and prey, parasite and host and even between males and females. New offensive capabilities evolve corresponding defences, which can only be overcome by evolving still other offensive capabilities... and so it goes.

But that doesn't answer the question.

Here's a simple answer. Are we really defenseless? As you say, an individual man or woman is unlikely to last long in a physical contest with an individual lion or bear. But evolution isn't about preserving individuals; it's about preserving genes. And you have to admit that our natural offensive and defensive capabilities are currently doing a much better job of saving and replicating our genes than bears' or lions' do theirs.

That leads us to the second answer. If nature's law is eat and be eaten, then it is obvious that all species need defences against other species. The question to ask is, what constitutes a defence. Fearsome teeth, tusks, deadly claws, impenetrable armour... well, they're pretty obvious ones. But an equally good defence is running away, and less costly in energy terms (the price of evolution's benefits is paid in energy) to develop and maintain. Unless you're a predator that needs teeth or claws to get your dinner, it's often better to be fleet of fin, foot or wing, or simply good at dodging.

But even running away is beyond the capacity of one entire kingdom of life: the plants. Rooted, slow-living, plants ain't going anywhere. But just look at the defences they've evolved! They have Animalia* beaten hollow when it comes to defending themselves. In fact, many of them have incorporated being eaten into their reproductive mechanism: they rely on insects to have their sex for them and on birds and mammals to spread their seed abroad. They've done this by turning their reproductive organs and offspring into the most attractive and delicious parts of themselves, so 'predators' will come along, help themselves and leave the rest of the plant alone to grow more flowers and fruit, to propagate its genes another season.

Nature's defensive strategies are legion. Think of skunks and stink-bugs; leaf-insects, chameleons and false coral snakes; stonefish and poison-toads; hermit crabs and rhinoceroses; catnip and cannabis; redcap mushrooms and deadly nightshade. Think of the bacteria, whose strength is in sheer numbers. I could go on and on. The thing these species - all species - have in common is that they exist to protect and procreate replicating molecules - genes - and not themselves.

I hope this explanation was satisfactory.

*Just using the old Linnean classifications for fun.
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