Are you carrying a tracking device?

Well apparently the government has been going to court to track people through their cell phone and they can track you to within thirty feet of your location by using the data.

www.democracynow.org...

Federal Officials Obtaining Cell Phone Data To Track People
The Washington Post reports federal officials are routinely asking courts to order cellphone companies to furnish real-time tracking data to help the government monitor the whereabouts of some cell phone users. In some cases, judges have granted the requests without requiring the government to demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that a crime is taking place or that the inquiry will yield evidence of a crime. It is not known how many times the government has sought the ability to track cell phone users because the requests and orders are sealed. Kevin Bankston of the privacy advocacy group Electronic Frontier Foundation said: “Most people don’t realize it, but they’re carrying a tracking device in their pocket. Cellphones can reveal very precise information about your location, and yet legal protections are very much up in the air.” Experts say the phone data provided by the cell phone companies can help the government home in on a target to within about 30 feet.

Yes,thats what they were invented for.
And they can turn on the mic at will to listen to anybody talking in the room.
And use the camera.
And the gprs if the phone has it.

But the best bit is they sell these things to us as if we really need them.
Oh and they probably give us brain cancer as well,doing their bit for big pharma and the population control freaks.

No I am not having a joke.

and no I am not carrying a cell phone.

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Silcone Synapse]

Yep, you are right it is the big bad wolf in granny's clothes. Their using things we want and need to infiltrate our lives and we are probably footing the bill for the extra technology by paying a more money for these products.

Printers give a code on every page printed to show the serial number of the printer.

Cameras give a code on the photo showing the camera serial number.

Phones showing them our location.

Our cars all have a black box in them tracking our driving habits and can be used in a court of law against us.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out the new tvs makes it possible for them to watch us if they want to.

Heck,with all those trillions floating around in black ops and the like it would be easy to market a tracking/listening chip masquerading as some vital cell phone component,undercut the market and get the product in every phone world wide..
Or how about a black op to create/take over a well known operating system builder,and use everyones computers to snoop on them?

Then theres always the whole RFID in clothes idea,which guniea pigs,I mean children are having to wear to school in the UK:

news.bbc.co.uk...

When I read about stuff like that I always think "if that technology is being commercialised now,then the secret black ops people have had it for at least 30 years."
Stuff like that could have and probably was tested on us years ago.
Great to know the governments want to "look after" us all ain't it?

I always think, though, who the hell has the time to sort through all the data that's out there; so as long as I keep my nose clean I'm ok. Of course, should I be red flagged, I'm sure what I'm saying goes out the window.

I hear you Raoul,
Its just that all this surveillance mentality is such a waste of potential...why embroil the whole of civilization into the matrix when most of us are rational folks who just want to live a life unflustered from such state intrusions?
Why not spend some of this money on positive things,like alternative energy and healthcare instead of turning everyone into a potential criminal,with "a file"?

I have nothing to hide,but I sure as hell do not want my innocent young relatives to be chipped,tracked and monitored from birth till death.

This is how Nazis and Soviet dictators treated their populace-with internal passports,checkpoints and the like.The obsession of surveillance was once sold to us as traits of our enemies.
This is NOT us in the UK or the USA.
What went wrong?

I basically agree with you Silicone. I wasn't arguing against civil liberties, I was just kind of questioning the rationale of the powers that be; even if they want to violate our civil liberties I think they're going about it in a haphazard way. Also you're right we shouldn't 'go quietly' so to speak, and let them do whatever they want to...

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Raoul Duke]

Oh I forgot to mention one more thing and that is if you burn someone a cd it can be traced back to the computer that originally burned it, apparently every cd that gets burned also burns the identity of the computer on it. I'm sure most of the computer guys or so called geeks already knew this.
I got this piece of info from a show aired on MSNBC called, "Big Brother Big Business", check it out, it on google video.

Basically we are all buying and bringing in these little spys into our home, every piece of new technology from what I am seeing is also geared to act as a spy.

Onstar 2009 can stop a moving vehicle via satellite

arstechnica.com...

[edit on 1-12-2007 by goose]

Great thread. Yes I carry a tracking device. I like the security of being able to call someone if my car breaks down, or I am attacked by a Grizzly bear while hiking. I use them alot more for necessity than idle chatter.

It isn't the idle chatter that is interesting to surveillance, it's any kind of illegal activity from someone using drug slang to coordinating protests/handouts etc. The ability to bust people for things they do/say in what they thought was privacy, is a whole knew sadistic pleasure that the NWO is ready to enjoy.


[edit on 1-12-2007 by NewWorldOver]