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posted by _Mr.X_
Before I reply I must ask, why are you so angry with God?
Lets look at that "top 10" list of things God can't do..
1. God cannot kill himself.
2. God cannot run time backwards.
3. God cannot reveal the future. (who says He can't. He let me know about 9/11 before it happened . . )
4. God cannot cure the faint, lame or halt, lest He empty the hospitals.
5. God cannot communicate precisely (3 major faiths and infinite PsOV).
6. God cannot restore life (raise the dead).
7. God cannot bring peace to the world.
8. God cannot feed his subjects.
9. God cannot prevent hurricanes (Katrina) nor tsunamis (Boxing Day) or California wild fires or droughts in the Southeast.
10. God cannot prevent frauds using his name.
Now If your going to attack God, as least know your facts and try to understand why He does what HE does..
Comprised of nearly 38,000 denominations (wiki)
Originally posted by RANT
Marketing is NOT a lie! But rather a highly underutilized talent by the primal-indigenous and zorastrians. Come on true believers, get with the program. Sharpen thy sword and cable access skills and covert some Christians to Rastafarianism. Before it's too late!!! Souls to save, so much to do. Busy, busy, busy. Hang on, Buddha on the other line.
Christianity: 2.1 billion
4 major branches - hell knows how many divisions within each
Islam: 1.5 billion
Of the other religious faiths we also find division.
Hinduism: 900 million ...
...Scientology: 500 thousand
posted by shihulud
posted by RANT
Christianity: 2.1 billion
Comprised of nearly 38,000 denominations (wiki)
shihulud So it would seem that the non religious are the majority so why do the religionists seem to think they have some sort of authority to interfere?
shihulud So if there is a god he does seem to do a good bit of lying when the majority of people don’t believe in god and the rest are so confused they can't even agree. G
I as the OP am not angry with something I dont believe but with the premise that religion assumes some sort of authority. You assume as a christian that your views are correct an that I and others should listen and accept your views as the truth. The problem is that your beliefs are based on faith and cannot be proven due to their nature. The book that your faith is based is full of contradictions and not historically accurate and as I have shown that the god in the OT is not the same god that the NT proclaims. It is also known that the early church did falsify bits of the bible to fit their own agenda.
Originally posted by _Mr.X_
donwhite, The reason I used Deuteronomy is because the OP used Deuteronomy.
I believe asking the OP why he was so angry with God is a valid question. Apparently he just took some random verses in the bible to complain about. He did not read the book at all. If he did he would have read that when Jesus arrived, His BLOOD became the new covenant. What does that mean? Look it up. Once you understand you will see the OT does not apply anymore. But hey that would ruin the OP's post now wouldn't it.
I dont blame god for what humans do, I blame humans for what humans do whether good or bad. I dont ascribe anything to any deity - why should I?
Now go and keep posting, blaming God for mans sins. Thats all I see in this thread. God told the truth to man but man in his greed and stupidity twisted His words and made many "religions". I don't see Jesus going out trying to collect money. But I do see evil people who claim to represent God collecting money and lying using His name. If you want to make a rant, rant about the evil people who deceive and lie. Like our skull & bones satanic president who says he is a Christian.
Please stop blaming God for what humans do.
So what? And by being a catholic that gives you some sort of authority over others does it?
BTW I am a Catholic
And yet you claim to have the answers and that I am confused
Originally posted by gravytrain
reply to post by shihulud
You are confused babu, I want to enlighten you. God is the unmanifested manifester of everything. We are all a part of god. We need only to wake up from Mara, (Mara represents Greed, lust, anger, ignorance) Mara is the reason for all the disorder and confusion present in the world right now. We have unenlightened men who are befuddled with mara, and they spread theyre false dharma throughout the world. We have a hard choice to make regarding religion, I myself follow the teachings of buddha, but i consider myself to be a spiritualist.
When unenlightened men interpret enlightened men's words you get confusion. You get suffering.
God does not lie. God is above an beyond any ego, God is unknowable. And god is unfathomable. I stand in awe before god.
Well I think I will choose to 'suffer' as you put it as my suffering is quite happy and if it was a choice of believing in a god (if it existed) I would still choose to live my life without the necessity for having this deity in my life. All religions to me are abhorrent IMO.
Wake up people. Or suffer. Your choice.
Originally posted by gravytrain
But its up to you. Its all you. You choose to live how you want to. You choose to see what you want to, and you choose your path.
Feedom isnt free, including free will.
Wake up people. Or suffer. Your choice.
Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
Originally posted by gravytrain
But its up to you. Its all you. You choose to live how you want to. You choose to see what you want to, and you choose your path.
Feedom isnt free, including free will.
Wake up people. Or suffer. Your choice.
Ah the great convert or suffer choice.
Why do christians have to threaten other people to convert? Why use fear to try to win people over?
If you dont wish people to comment on things then don't write them. If you wish to disregard the things I've posted then do so and stay out of the thread, no-one is forcing you to interject.
Originally posted by _Mr.X_
The " I am Catholic" answer was for donwhite. He suspected that I might be a Protestant. Quoting Don "but I sense you are not Catholic, but rather you seem to be a “pick and choose” Protestant".
Wow If you took the time to read what others wrote IN YOUR THREAD you would have read this, but you did not bother. How can I have a intelligent conversation with someone who refuses to listen? By your actions you show me that you disregard anything anyone has to say contrary to your point of view. You will never learn anything with that outlook.
Why would I as an atheist blame any deity for what people do? Your logic is a bit flawed. What I was trying to do was to show that the religious concept of a perfect god is wrong.
Next you said "I dont blame god for what humans do, I blame humans for what humans do whether good or bad. I dont ascribe anything to any deity - why should I?"
Again if you read my rebuttal to you, you would have seen where I answered you in regard to the "Deuteronomy" statements you used. You indeed blame God for what humans do!
A christian taking things out of context to try and prove a point, what will you think of next? In deut 9 god is telling the israelites that they have defied him on many occasions but because he promised the land to the patriarchs he will fulfill that promise as is shown (which by the way he did not therefore lied) .
You based your whole argument using verses from this book and I showed that if you would have read just a little more you would have seen where THE PEOPLE lied to GOD and HE revoked His promise....
...Again you prove to me that you did not bother to read.
And if you check what I said you would find that jesus and the NT are false so its your assumption that christianity has some divine authority that is wrong. Please don't assume I don't have a clue what I'm talking about - I used to be a bible basher myself.
You said "I have shown that the god in the OT is not the same god that the NT proclaims". Your 100% correct here too, but not in the way you think. Jesus' blood became the new covenant. Thats why there was a change. Look it up.
Far to many to list but here's one for you. How do you reconcile that fact that the septaguint version of the torah states that methuselah lived 14 years after the flood while the newer versions have him dying (oh so conveniently before the flood)? As I have shown the early church changed bits of the bible to suit there own ends, going against what was stated in the OT.
You said "The book that your faith is based is full of contradictions and not historically accurate and as I have shown"
I say repost all your "contradictions" in a nice concise manner. Just the verses you think prove your points. No interjection on your part, just the verses. And I will debunk them. Thats my challenge to you.