Are Media Elitists Avoiding The Connection of White Males and Child Rape?

I was partially inspired by a recent thread but this has been on my mind for quite some time. As more and more stories surface such as this one:

Neighbor charged in hanging of girl, 6

Shaun Earl Arender, 19, is charged with capital murder in the death of Hanna. Her mother found the child's half-nude body hanging from the garage rafters before sunrise Sept. 10. According to an arrest affidavit, "the defendant was then and there in the course of committing or attempting to commit the offense of aggravated sexual assault against Hanna Mack."

Houston Chronicle

Federal prosecutor charged in child sex sting

A federal prosecutor was charged yesterday with flying across the country to have sex with a little girl. ...'I've done it plenty'
USA Today

and

Chester Arthur Stiles wanted as ‘person of interest’ in rape of 4 year old

Chester Arthur Stiles is wanted by Nevada Police as they have named him a ‘person of interest’ in the rape and sexual assault of a 4 year old girl on a homemade video. The only thing known about the girl is that she is around four or five years old and is called ‘Madison’ in the video. Police and the FBI believe Stiles may be the man on the tape.

Transworld News

I can’t help but see the obvious pattern.

The recently busted pedophile rings exposed the perpetrators as middle to upper class white males in some cases like in France entire families were involved. Even a Google news search on the subject will show a quick racial snapshot. The national Center for Missing and Exploited Children did a behavioral analysis and their research shows that online molesters tended to be white males from a middle class or higher Socio-economic background. Their fact sheet on Child pornography states:

Almost all child-pornography possessors (estimated 1,713) arrested between July 1, 2000, and June 30, 2001, were male, 91% were white, and 86% were older than 25. Only 3% were younger than 18.

Child Pornography Factsheet

70% of those serving time for violent crimes against children were white.
- Bureau of Justice Statistics Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991

I don’t even believe this is a current trend only one has been getting a little more attention than it had in the past.

New Hollywood Film 'Kinsey' Promotes Child Molester Who Launched 'Sexual Revolution'

Dr. Reisman revealed that Kinsey conducted human experiments in a soundproof laboratory built to his specifications at Indiana University, and that the sexual abuse of at least 317 infants and young boys was a scientific protocol for Kinsey's 1948 report.

Propaganda Matrix

That’s not to mention the vast network of pedophiles exposed in the Catholic Church.

The typical response from neighbors and friends (aside from general shock) is that "he seemed so normal". The reality is that the buttoned down neighbors in suburbia are more likely to molest my child than the average lower class individual.

Why is this racial connection not readily spoken about? I do believe the media is avoiding making these sort of racial connections for various reasons, like painting all molesters as a certain race could potentially help keep others not of that race from suspicion yet this doesn’t seem to apply to other crimes.

When people hear the words drug addict/dealer, car thief, burglar etc…they tend to think “minority” or "non-white" regardless of the facts. These negative stereotypical ideas are readily pushed by many extreme conservative broadcasters/pundits to essentially bias the minds of many to associate true criminals with non-whites, yet rarely do they address the racial backgrounds of the dreaded child molesters.

There also have been accusations made against almost all secretive elitist power groups. Groups like the Masons, and the other world power elitists that attend Bohemian Grove are often tied into rumors of sacrifice, satanism and child molestation. Both are practically almost exclusive white male clubs.

Is it because the dominant culture in American society is white, and the power structure is tailored around white males? Is racism and bias actually helping keep these molesters free of suspicion? Is this intentionally to keep focus off a certain group so as to keep the higher elitists/world leaders that do perpetuate these horrible acts with impunity above suspicion?

I think the racial biases of the media and government in not exposing this as much as other criminal statistics is actually doing more harm than good. In reality I doubt most of the general public even make the connection as they do in most cases.

I'm curious as to why this is rarely pointed out and how white males avoid the stereotypical media vilification most non-whites face.

- Lee

I am not so sure that this is a conspiracy per se, it probably more reflects the sub-conscience ignoring of these issues as it does not fit with our own deep seated fears. I wonder if this is as 'clear as day' to black people?

It is a similar issue to the way that women fear the rapist in the ski mask hiding in the dark park when the reality is that they are most likely to be raped by someone they know, probably their husband or partner.

Psychological profiling of criminals recognises the same factors. Serial killers are mostly white males in a similar ages group too.



[edit on 1-10-2007 by EJHoover]

Just because racial stereo-typing is something that you seem to enjoy, it is not something that the mainstream media tends to want to dabble in. I am sure that a news outlet who's primary demographic is the same white male, it would probably not be good business to call them child raping pedophiles.

Honestly, this seems like a racist thread. Had someone written a similar thread claiming that any minority was statistically proven to be a criminal of any sort (much less a pedophile), I would imagine that the mods would pull it or it would face some sort of outrage.

Originally posted by Karlhungis
Just because racial stereo-typing is something that you seem to enjoy, it is not something that the mainstream media tends to want to dabble in. I am sure that a news outlet who's primary demographic is the same white male, it would probably not be good business to call them child raping pedophiles.

Honestly, this seems like a racist thread. Had someone written a similar thread claiming that any minority was statistically proven to be a criminal of any sort (much less a pedophile), I would imagine that the mods would pull it or it would face some sort of outrage.

I actually disagree (respectfully of course) that this is a racist thread. He has posted things that are factual. I dont think he is "enjoying" posting this. He is seeing something that is accurate and it bothers him.

It bothers me too.

It also bothers me that way too many judges are letting pedophiles and rapists off with hardly any punishment, even after conviction. This is becoming increasingly a very big deal.....and must be looked at.

Just because you gather data that produces a result such as this, does not make anything racist. Fact is, in order to produce accurate crime statistics, you have to look at everything: race, age, gender, location, economics, etc.

So what you are saying is that if I say (hypothetical) that most men w/in the ages of 21-31 commit this crime - that is okay. But as soon as a race is thrown in there, it is not okay?

The political correctness of this world just irks me. LOL

[edit on 1-10-2007 by greeneyedleo]

reply to post by greeneyedleo

originally by greeneyedleo
Just because you gather data that produces a result such as this, does not make anything racist.

I think he probably chose the result first then gathered the data he needed for that result.

originally posted by lee anoma
I can’t help but see the obvious pattern.

Thats how prejudice works.

originally posted by lee anoma
When people hear the words drug addict/dealer, car thief, burglar etc…they tend to think “minority” or "non-white" regardless of the facts.

No, this is what prejudice people do. Or idiots. I am neither.

originally posted by lee anoma
Why is this racial connection not readily spoken about? I do believe the media is avoiding making these sort of racial connections for various reasons

It helps perpetuate racism. There is no need to make the distinction that they are all white. They are all human too. Do you think it a problem with white people/ white men / men / what ? Perhaps non-white people / women are better at hiding their crimes ?
The fact is it's a problem we ALL have to deal with, so why the distinction ? Aren't there more important things to discuss with regards to this than the colour of the criminals skin ?

Originally posted by RedEyes
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

originally by greeneyedleo
Just because you gather data that produces a result such as this, does not make anything racist.

I think he probably chose the result first then gathered the data he needed for that result.

originally posted by lee anoma
I can’t help but see the obvious pattern.

Thats how prejudice works.

originally posted by lee anoma
When people hear the words drug addict/dealer, car thief, burglar etc…they tend to think “minority” or "non-white" regardless of the facts.

No, this is what prejudice people do. Or idiots. I am neither.

originally posted by lee anoma
Why is this racial connection not readily spoken about? I do believe the media is avoiding making these sort of racial connections for various reasons

It helps perpetuate racism. There is no need to make the distinction that they are all white. They are all human too. Do you think it a problem with white people/ white men / men / what ? Perhaps non-white people / women are better at hiding their crimes ?
The fact is it's a problem we ALL have to deal with, so why the distinction ? Aren't there more important things to discuss with regards to this than the colour of the criminals skin ?

Well, until he comes back...we dont really know what he did and why. But as a Criminal Justice student, I have studied things like this before...and im certainly not a racist.

Secondly, are you saying that we should not gather any identiying information on criminals? Not age, location, gender, financial situation, etc?

Would it be okay to say 95% of criminals who do this crime are female age 16-25 who come from a poverty background? That is okay? But it is not okay to throw in "cacausion"?

Im not saying I agree or disagree with you.

Im just trying to find out what exactly is acceptible to the masses, when stuyding and finding out who exactly is committing crimes.



[edit on 1-10-2007 by greeneyedleo]

I do not see this as a racial thread either.

It is not a big kept secret that the majority of child predators in history have been white males. MUCH LIKE... serial killers. If you look at the majority, they are white males. The only case of record I can think of is the Child Atlanta Murders of the 80's and there is A LOT of debated if the Black Male they caught and convicted is actually guilty. To my knowledge there are maybe 4 or 5 women. Women, Blacks, Arabs, Asians are not typically known for this type of behavior. Now I am sure they are some, just like you have had a few female serial killers, but this is an area dominated by White Males.

Feel free to go look yourselves. I HIGHLY DOUBT that the examples the OP provided are hand selected to help prove his point.

To the OP: The pattern you are seeing is no secret and has been discussed at length by FBI Profilers for YEARS. If you want more info on the statistics or about why this may be the case, FBI Profilers would be a very good place to start.

For everyone who wants to scream racism...... are Profilers racist too for making the EXACT same observations as the OP?

reply to post by greeneyedleo

originally posted by greeneyedleo
Well, until he comes back...we dont really know what he did and why. But as a Criminal Justice student, I have studied things like this before...and im certainly not a racist.

Secondly, are you saying that we should not gather any identiying information on criminals? Not age, location, gender, financial situation, etc?

Would it be okay to say 95% of criminals who do this crime are female age 16-25 who come from a poverty background? That is okay? But it is not okay to throw in "cacausion"?

Im not saying I agree or disagree with you.

Im just trying to find out what exactly is acceptible to the masses, when stuyding and finding out who exactly is committing crimes.

Firstly, I never said he or you or anyone who studies this is a racist.

Secondly, I did not say that we should not gather identifying information on criminals, obviously.

Thirdly, no it would not be ok to say that ( in the same context ) because it helps perpetuate racism in exactly the same way ( racism goes in all directions you know ).

I take issue with the thread title and as a result, the reason for the thread. White men LINKED with CHILD RAPE. It says alot ( to me ) about the intentions of the OP.
What about all the African/Asian countries in the world? Does the OP think "child rape" isn't happening in these places? Doesn't the OP think that these crimes aren't covered extensively enough by the media also? It happens everywhere and as far as I'm aware has nothing to do with skin colour and everything to do with being crazy/sick/defective.
I would think it's much less likely that you would see reports such as this coming from certain Asia/African locations due to lack of freedom/resources, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening. And, the fact that the OP can provide links to all the reports of "white men raping children" shows that there isn't much of a coverup going on? So what is the point of this thread??

reply to post by section8citizen

originally posted by section8citizen
For everyone who wants to scream racism...... are Profilers racist too for making the EXACT same observations as the OP?

Profilers are paid to make these observations it helps in crime prevention/detection whatever you want to call it.

That's slightly different to what the OP does which is, start a thread "White Men LINKED to CHILD RAPE and the MEDIA are COVERING IT UP", then go on to provide 5 links to stories of "white men raping children".

You yourself say

originally posted by section8citizen
Feel free to go look yourselves. I HIGHLY DOUBT that the examples the OP provided are hand selected to help prove his point.

So where is the coverup ? There seem to be alot of information out there to review. So I ask again where is the coverup? What is the point of this thread?

reply to post by RedEyes

So where is the coverup ? There seem to be alot of information out there to review. So I ask again where is the coverup? What is the point of this thread?

I wouldn't suggest "coverup" being the correct word, but I would agree that no mention of race is evident by stories covered in the MSM. If anything it is a topic that is simply ignored and not discussed. Probably due to reactions just like what we have seen in this thread. It is very non PC to mention race and it generally strikes an emotional chord with lots of people.

I dont think the poster is being racist at all in posting what they believe is the case, but I do disagree that this is a white phenomenon. Other places in the world rapes going on every day in the 1000's and go unreported. Africa is a perfect example. the only difference is, in other places, where the media isn't silenced, you hear about it.

reply to post by section8citizen

originally posted by section8citizen
If anything it is a topic that is simply ignored and not discussed. Probably due to reactions just like what we have seen in this thread. It is very non PC to mention race and it generally strikes an emotional chord with lots of people.

Thats because people don't like to be put into little pigeon-holes based on their race, and that applies to all races.
No-one discusses the topic because child molestation has nothing to do with the colour of your skin.
Here's how it works. There are a certain percentage of completely defective humans ( paedophiles ) in the world. They may be white/non-white ( that's random ). That's it !
You're much more likely to hear reports of this kind from the western world because, honestly, the western world has, in general , a better law system, a better infrastructure, better support groups, and a more resourceful and free media. These are only a few of the many reasons.

Originally posted by Karlhungis
Honestly, this seems like a racist thread. Had someone written a similar thread claiming that any minority was statistically proven to be a criminal of any sort (much less a pedophile), I would imagine that the mods would pull it or it would face some sort of outrage.

What makes you think I am a minority?

Now who's stereotyping? Playing the race card? I assure you if I loathed all white people I'd have some serious self-hate issues to deal with.

I've seen threads that have made disparaging claims against certain groups (including racial) on this site before and some that weren't meant to but the resulting posts began to sway that way, however those threads have lead to open discussions at time and if they degenerated into bickering they ended.

I mean...are ALL evil elitists homosexuals? Probably not, but that question has been raised. That thread isn't an attack on gays in my opinion even though it could be misconstrued as being one. Is it a valid question to ask? Maybe.

This thread was not intended to be racist but merely a commentary on subconscious manipulative racism perpetuated by the media and I do believe it is intentional for the most part. I've noticed that the media has used race to damage some groups while elevating others and at times it doesn't even seem as obvious as it should.

Let me put it this way...if I were a "visitor" from another planet and I watched mainstream media for a week I could easily assume that the only people that go missing in the world of any significant importance are white women/girls. When one goes missing it's almost as if the world stops.

I think that says something about our society and the media. Is that racism or a form of manipulative conditioning to say that this particular group is more important than another? Is it intentional?

If it is then that's another form of divisive control over the minds of average citizens and I think it in turn helps to keep us away from any basic cultural/racial understanding and at each others throats over the simplest of racial issues as opposed to looking at the real culprits behind say a manipulative "Private Jessica Lynch-Joan of Arc" agenda.

My point wasn't that they SHOULD stereotype all white males, but that they avoid making any sort of racial connection while the opposite cannot be said in regards to other ethnic groups and crimes. That to me is an example of an intentional bias that racially pushes groups away from each other.

It's that same bias that gives the child molester a one-ten year sentence on average (most can do half and get probation), while a black teenager (whom we are conditioned to think of as a criminal and therefore a throwaway) can get twenty-two years for something far less destructive than murdering the soul of a child.

The media plays a large part in this racial conditioning imo.

Originally posted by infinite8
I dont think the poster is being racist at all in posting what they believe is the case, but I do disagree that this is a white phenomenon. Other places in the world rapes going on every day in the 1000's and go unreported. Africa is a perfect example. the only difference is, in other places, where the media isn't silenced, you hear about it.

That is very true...and one point that I have considered. I do understand that most cases just go unreported in general.

Even still, the mainstream medias (U.S.) handling/cherry-picking of certain cases to sensationalize still show a specific and intentional racial bias.

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by Karlhungis
Honestly, this seems like a racist thread. Had someone written a similar thread claiming that any minority was statistically proven to be a criminal of any sort (much less a pedophile), I would imagine that the mods would pull it or it would face some sort of outrage.

What makes you think I am a minority?

Now who's stereotyping? Playing the race card? I assure you if I loathed all white people I'd have some serious self-hate issues to deal with.

Sorry, where did he say you were a minority? Where did he play the race-card?
It seems that you DO in fact have a lot of race related issues you need to deal with otherwise you wouldn't be saying such things ( see your quote above ). You're actually seeing things that aren't there.....

Originally posted by lee anoma
Let me put it this way...if I were a "visitor" from another planet and I watched mainstream media for a week I could easily assume that the only people that go missing in the world of any significant importance are white women/girls.

You can rest assured that if visitors come and visit us from another planet they will not garner information on us from watching the media for a week and then making assumptions.

Originally posted by lee anoma
That to me is an example of an intentional bias that racially pushes groups away from each other.

This thread/its title/and its purpose is doing the exact same thing. Don't believe me? Check some of the replies....

Originally posted by lee anoma
The media plays a large part in this racial conditioning imo.

And you're determined to assist ?

Originally posted by RedEyes

Originally posted by lee anoma
The media plays a large part in this racial conditioning imo.

And you're determined to assist ?

I'm determined to address.

The issue was raised for that purpose. It's fine to pick my posts apart sentence by sentence and give a quick one-liner (seen it a lot around here) but you ignore the point to try and become personal. I won't do a tit-for-tat to derail my point.

I do want to address one point you made though:

Originally posted by RedEyes
You can rest assured that if visitors come and visit us from another planet they will not garner information on us from watching the media for a week and then making assumptions.

I'm not simply making personal assumptions. The bias in reporting is quite obvious (well to some) and certain members of mainstream media as well as numerous studies point to this.

Race Bias in Media Coverage of Missing Women?

On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, horrible crimes, terrible stories involving young women. So, why do some like Natalee Holloway get more attention on television than others?

CNN

Missing white woman syndrome

Missing white woman syndrome (MWWS), also known as missing pretty girl syndrome, is a term used[1] to describe alleged disproportionate media coverage of white female victims.[2][3] The individual may be missing, murdered, captured, or even have faked her own abduction; the essential element of the syndrome is that her gender,[4] race, prettiness, age, or social background is alleged to have extended the media coverage and public interest in her case.

Wikipedia

And in terms of what I initially brought up.

Off Balance: Youth, Race, and Crime in the News

by Lori Dorfman, Berkeley Media Studies Group
and Vincent Schiraldi, Justice Policy Institute

...finds that news media unduly connects youth to crime and violence and that youth of color are overrepresented as perpetrators and underrepresented as victims of crime.

The news media, particularly television news, unduly connect race and crime, especially violent crime.

- African Americans are underrepresented in reporting as victims, and overrepresented in the news as perpetrators. Articles about White homicide victims tend to be longer, and more frequent than the articles that cover African American victims.

- African Americans were 22% more likely to be shown on local TV news in Los Angeles committing violent crime than nonviolent crime. Actual crime statistics reveal African American's were equally likely to be arrested for violent and nonviolent crimes. Another series of studies showed that Whites committed more violent crimes than were represented in television crime stories of violent crime.

- Studies of the news showed that interracial crime was substantially more likely to be reported than actual crime statistics would predict.

OFF BALANCE: Youth Race and Crime

There's more but those are a few. Assumptions are the easiest things to make under those circumstances, and this further validates my point.

I am thankful for the responses and see that some understand the motivation behind the question I raise.

Again..this bias was becoming more and more obvious to me and I didn't want to create a thread where EVERYONE agreed with me that would be useless...I wanted to discuss the issues and hear other perspectives.

- Lee

There are three things to consider here:

1) The racial makeup of the U.S. European Americans are about 72-76% of the US population. African Americans are 13%. Hispanics are 10-11%. The remainder goes in various categories. So, at "seventy percent of the pedophiles" whites may be very slightly under-represented.


2) The way the FBI logs Race:

FBI policy is that hispanics are counted as hispanic when they are victims, but counted as "white" when they are the perpetrators. If you go to the FBI perpetrator statistics pages by city, you will notice there is no "hispanic" category, yet there is one for the victims of crime pages.

oops double post.


[edit on 2-10-2007 by dr_strangecraft]

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft

There are three things to consider here:

1) The racial makeup of the U.S. European Americans are about 72-76% of the US population. African Americans are 13%. Hispanics are 10-11%. The remainder goes in various categories. So, at "seventy percent of the pedophiles" whites may be very slightly under-represented.

Yes very true, you would expect the overwhelming majority to be in the higher percentage of crimes committed.

Still, by that logic then we still should see a majority of the percentage or offenders in other types of crimes held by the white population of America. Yet you don't, and in most cases (and prisons) the minority population is disproportionate to the country population.

If those stats aren't translated into other areas proportionately in terms of crimes committed then that would still point to this particular crime being somewhat more appealing than others for white offenders.

Originally posted by lee anoma

If those stats aren't translated into other areas proportionately in terms of crimes committed then that would still point to this particular crime being somewhat more appealing than others for white offenders.

I just noticed I never posted my third point, which was intended to be:


3) The politics of prosecution.

Not merely the racial politics, either. The fact is, prosecutions for pedophilia have grown exponentially with the emergence of the world wide web.

After my posting yesterday, I did a little reading up on the link between cihld pornography and sex assualts on minors. The link is pretty strong, with about 40% of one offense also committing the other offense, i.e., having child porn on your computer is a strong indicator that you've acted on your sick desires.


THAT is a useful statistic for profilers. And since the bulk of illegal porn is trafficked over the internet, the easiest way to put a suspect behind bars, is to check his computer, and get a warrant for that, while you use the info to get a more sweeping warrant for ALL of his papers and effects.

Of course, that means your suspect needs to own a computer . . . .

So, either

a) perps buy a computer in order to get the porn
b) people with computers are more likely to be molesters
c) perps with computers are the ones getting caught.

And who owns computers? This study says it's more about regular and speedy internet access, and that in the USA such access is overwhelmingly white (or was, 9 years ago).

I'd be more interested to see race statistics of perps arrested without any evidence involving computer porn to make the case.