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I started to recieve e-mail from somebody and i wanted to know what everybody thinks about what this

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posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:17 PM
Do you think the guy that sent this e-mail is for real.

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Message: 4: [burlingtonufo] Digest Number 157
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:12:55 -0000
From: "Brad and Mary"
Subject: Sticking my Neck Out on the MJ12 Papers

In this post Iam going to put my neck on the chopping block to
all..the critics, the unbelievers, skeptics and the most dangerous of
all..the ones that know the truth about the MJ12 Papers.

I was watching SCI-FI tonight on God Aliens and then a follow up on
Secrets concerning Aliens. Among one they interviewed was Stanton
Friedman. Aferwards I decided to write this to you members that have
supported me in my endeavors to teach 'truths' to anyone that wants
to hear it.

I have tried to present evidence to my readers in a 'non-committal'
and 'low-profile' method (although there are some that would disagree
with this..smiles). But never-the-less it is true. Although part of
me would even like to toss the whole idea of aliens out the window,
Iam compelled to ignore these feelings and continue to present

As most of you know, I just came back from Roswell. I was down there
interviewing some of the more higher profiled ufo researchers. I came
back with many stories of which (as soon as I get my XP up and
running) will be video broadcasted. But what I was not expecting in
Roswell was my own 'good look at myself' and those in the field that
I work with. Since I have come back, I have been trying to come to
grips with certain self-realizations.

Tonight, watching the show, I was once again reminded of what is
wrong in our research. That is telling everything we know. Time and
time again, in Roswell, I would be privately talking to one
researcher or the other and things would come out in confidence of
which I promised not to 'tell'. And I also found myself doing the
same thing...telling only a select few of certain particulars of
known events. We researchers have become just as guilty of
withholding truths as the very people we criticize. And for many of
us there is good reason to not tell. And Stanton Friedman is no
exception to the rule...especially in his discussion of the MJ12

And when it comes to the MJ12 Papers, there is very good reason not
to tell the general public..or expose just exactly the intent of the
government in dealing with the alien problem. For one one
would believe it. For this reason, most of the researchers that have
read the 'original copies' of 'the original' papers stolen from the
government focus just on the surface value of the papers, being they
focus on the fact that 1. they exist . and 2. it proves that there
are aliens among us and our government not only knows about it but
have made a secret agreement to work with them.
But what they don't focus on is...who these aliens are or what their
plans are for us....nor do they focus on the alien/government long
term plan as to the final outcome of mankind. This again is
understandable to me because again..either no one would believe it or
if the people did, action would immediately have to be taken by the
people to stop the process. My prediction here would be that most ,
even if they did believe it, would chose to put their head in the
sand and pray that it would go away..ignoring the danger completely.
But what I say to you...IF THESE PAPERS ARE REAL...then the human
race is in grave danger. And what can ufo-ologist do..What they are
doing...Very, Very Slowly bring information to the people. Slowly
nurse them into the acceptance of an alien presense. Before we can go
any further with what we know, we need to build this important
foundation. Remember the horror of 'War of the Worlds'...Well that
was fiction. MJ12 contents makes that look like 'Alice in
Wonderland'..and everything I have seen so far, indicates to me it is
Personally, I have known and read these papers... before the internet
ever had them up...and what you see on the internet is not all of the
contents. The real horrors have been taken out. Every chance I get I
look for the missing contents on the internet and so far haven't seen
it. I do have a copy of the original safe keeping with a
friend. I was too afraid to ever keep them on my person or near my
family. But although they are not on my person, I shall never forget
the verbage. These papers frightened me so, that I told him/her that
they (along with some secret pyramid papers) were never to be
released except upon my death. And so far, as you see, Iam still
alive. And Iam quite certain Stanton Friedman and a few others know
exactly what Iam talking about and have the same papers that I have
Let me give you a little history of the MJ12 papers and myself.
Years ago, I used to own the Phoenician Publishing House. Through
this publishing business, I met many influential people. I also
worked on the Arizona Republican Committee. And was also what we
called a 'political watch dog'. You could say we kept a lot of
politicians and local sheriff depts clean. As a 'watchdog' I worked a
ittle with DEA doing undercover work. Some of the people we helped to
re-locate under the 'witness protection program.'. Word was out that
if you needed help, contact Mary. I would use the power of my
publishing business to move things that most people couldn't.
My offices were very secure. My office had a locked door and was in a
secured building with another locked door. One evening, I cleaned off
my desk (as was my habit..never liking to come to work with a
cluttered desk), locked my door and went home for the day. The
following morning, I came to work, unlocked my door and found a
copied manuscript on my desk, lying there neatly with a cover letter
on it. I asked everyone around if they had seen anyone around my
office or building that was carrying paperwork...No one had seen
anyone. How they got in my office has always been a mystery to me.

The cover letter, said,
'Please read and tell as many people as you can. I was the one
responsible for stealing these papers and have now gone under ground
as to avoid being murdered. There has been numerous attempts on my
life. Please help.'.
I looked at the papers...and they were titled 'MJ12..TOP SECRET'
I never met the man afterwards and to this day am not really sure as
to his name or whereabouts...or even if he is alive.

Being that I was extremely busy and there were many papers I never
got to read them that day, but did that weekend...taking them home
with me. What I read, left me crying for a week..and Iam not the
type that cries. It left me empty, frightened for my family, and with
a completely different outlook as to how our government really sees
Like I said, if these papers are true, we need to wake up to what is
going on around us and prepare for some very shocking things to come.
One thing I will tell you here, is for those that believe in The
Rapture...BEWARE. Don't trust it!
The government program that was put together for a future event is
very precise. Instead of judging this to be true, I played a waiting
game to see if they would put these projects into effect. Everything,
up to this point of time, that was written in their plan, has been
implemented. More to come however...but not much more.

I have probably already overstepped my bounds here. But for my
members that watch SCI-FI and for those that are trying to research
out the truth, I just felt I needed to say this. There are reasons
the government doesn't want you to know...and there are even reasons
why researchers are not telling you everything they know.

Will I tell all...No.
Why because, like the rest, I also fear for myself and family.
But for those that want to know the truth, they will find it. But not
by just sitting back in your armchairs thinking this information will
be dropped in your lap. Truth only comes to those that are working
hard to find it.

Mary Sutherland

P.S. I have always hoped that the MJ12 Papers were not real.

E-mail # 2
Montauk Survivors - support group for anyone who has been or suspects they
may have been a test subject in such covert undergraound government
research and development operations locations as Montauk, Area 51, Dulce,
et al, or is has been staff working in these projects who has valid factual and corroborable information about any of these or similar experimental
operations and is will to publicly share their information.
i have lots of files on the montauk project and where it was held .i
have more than 5 groups that have people who where involved in it .they are members and are always disscusing there involvement . i`m deeply intrested in what they have to say . each and everyone of them are serious about what they say.we all respect each other`s issues and are always planning on disscusing things like area 51 and all .if there is anyone who wants to know anything about the montauk project or anything else that is associated with it . drop me an email

I had more e-mails from this guy but i deleted it b/c i needed the space. I did save one more e-mail but he just recommends many books for me to read. oh well, all i wated to know if this guy is credible about what he writes. Oh also i have not recieved any emails from this guy for a long time.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:24 PM
I say not real. It's time to up the medication for that gal! Ms Mary Sutherland to be exact!

[Edited on 22-1-2004 by dreamrebel]

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:25 PM

Originally posted by dreamrebel
I say not real. It's time to up the medication for that guy!

Gal. The name is Mary Sutherland.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:26 PM
Actually, it was a lady...


DOH, beat me to it...

[Edited on 22-1-2004 by Milk]

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:27 PM
Not to sound to cynical here, but I'm guesing that if you respond, after a while there will be some sort of pitch for "funds."

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:30 PM
Sounds like a load of bull# to me. This text rambles on and on and ends with a statement about deleting emails that were deemed incredibly important. I feel like I lost a few IQ points just reading it.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:42 PM

Originally posted by heelstone
Sounds like a load of bull# to me. This text rambles on and on and ends with a statement about deleting emails that were deemed incredibly important. I feel like I lost a few IQ points just reading it.

I mean i know it's false i just wanted to see if the people in this forum sees wat i see. Also the part about deleting some of the e-mail. I did that b/c i read them and to me it was not important to hold on to them.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:46 PM
Sorry my man. Good old Mary handed you a steaming loaf of bull carp!

[Edited on 22-1-2004 by dreamrebel]

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:53 PM

Originally posted by dreamrebel
Sorry my man. Good old Mary handed you a steaming loaf of bull carp!

[Edited on 22-1-2004 by dreamrebel]

I know it's probably bull crap. But I keep asking myself y this person started sending these e-mails to me. It's somebody i definitely never met. What would be the point of writing all the bullcrap. That's wat I keep asking myself.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:54 PM
Aliens. I believe the aliens is the "dragon race" I believe American scientists created back in the sixties by genetically engeneering a human/reptile hybrid with knowledge stemming back to secret SS projects during WW2 when they attempted to recreate the Atlantide nation/people through breeding and possibly premature cloning/gene manipulation with their roots back to the Dark Ages infact, when there was a sport among certain Catholic monks about creating new plants through poding etc. And I believe things got out of hand. I believe the "aliens" got their hands on the technology, and out mastered the humans because they were created to be perfect soldiers with "overclocked brains". What we see nowdays is probably a hidden war between the "good guys" whose trying to undo certain mistakes and these reptilitans. I have no true intel on this, I just speculate using a regular enclopedia and the Book of Revelations.

Look for a JFK or Cæsar clone out there.....


posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:57 PM
Oh for the love of god, what next?

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 05:59 PM
try emailing the person again to see what there all about!

i tell you what, the writing of that letter is bad for "getting funds" i mean the spelling and stuff.. dosnt seam proffesnal

and like the otheres have said, there have been anumber oif emails like this in the end just a way to get some $$

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 08:27 PM
If I had docs. like that I would be sending a copy to everyone on this site. If the gov. wants you dead they would have no trouble making it happen. Might as well get the word out to as many people as you can.

I feel differently about our wepons programs though. I would like to know, but I wouldn't want a rival faction to know.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 08:46 PM
If she has additional info on MJ12 she might as well let us all see it, she told us her name and the name of her business so it would be easy as piss to find and kill her.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 08:51 PM
Maybe it will be in her book?

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 08:55 PM

Originally posted by William One Sac
Maybe it will be in her book?

Which costs $12.95. I knew there was a hook in there somewhere.

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 09:00 PM
Want the things? They have lots of black lines and BOGUS written all over them

[Edited on 23-1-2004 by NetStorm]

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 09:37 PM

Nordics are a humanoid star culture often referred to as the Elohim. They have angular faces with bottomless blue-eyes that project light from them, capable of lighting an entire room.

My God, this just gets better and better! According to this site I'm an Elohim star traveller. Cool. I was never too sure of that, though I had a hunch


[Edited on 22-1-2004 by mikromarius]

posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:52 AM
Mary Sutherland is an author and did own the Phoenician Publishing House. From what I can find, she is also a host for the BUFO Paranormal and UFO radio on the net.

As for if she has MJ12 data - I dare say she thinks she has. If she has it, then why doesn't she tell us?

If its true, then surely its best that we are warned. Her comment about the Rapture made me think of the 'V' Sci-Fi series - maybe she thinks the Reptilians are going to take us away to eat us at their leisure.

Well, if that's true, then I hope I give them the #s

posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 05:47 PM
I can tell you I have met Mary Sutherland in person, spoke with her and truly believe she is person of great knowledge and honor, she spends a lot of time in research and does not appear to be a person that would risk her reputation to sell a book. So take this for what is worth and remember that we are not always told the truth by our government.

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