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Who killed The Electric Car?


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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 01:47 AM by iceofspades


Originally posted by ebe51
Electric Cars....
A good concept but many technological challenges to overcome. Batteries have the exact opposite problem of hydrogen they are efficient however they takes up allot of space and they're heavy. Which means there weight is added to cars making it harder for motors to push the car down the road. The best electric cars are stuck about 100 miles between recharges, and again that the best ones.


Sorry, but you are quite mistaken.

First of all, yes the lithium-ion batteries used in the newest electric cars are indeed heavy, but in comparison to the weight of an internal combustion engine, etc., there's no argument there. Space is definitely not an issue either, since the only motion-generating component aside from the batteries and tires is the moving-part-free electric motor.

As for the mileage range, you again are entirely wrong. For example, the Tesla Roadster, which is currently in production, can go up to 220 miles per charge. That certainly transcends the corporate disinfo that electric cars are only efficient enough to be neighborhood vehicles. Below is a link to Tesla Motor's site:

www.teslamotors.com...

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Some others had the honor, but I would like to also reiterate the relatively green nature of electric cars. It has been said in this thread that electric cars are not "zero-emission" because the pollution output of power plants needs to be considered. This is true, but the efficiency of even the seemingly dirtiest power plants is significantly better than that of an internal combustion engine. On top of that, if one wants to purchase carbon offset credits from their power companies to cover the small footprint of their car's energy consumption, they are very cheap. Even further, one could produce their own electricity with solar panels or wind generators, which are quickly becoming more and more viable financially for everyone.

New Solar Panels Produced at Less Than $1 Per Watt (Treehugger)

Amazon Selling 400 Watt Wind Turbine For $800 (Treehugger) (it's actually on sale for $500 right now)

[edit on 12-3-2008 by iceofspades]



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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 08:22 PM by ThichHeaded


I wanted to pop in with my 1st post here..

Google Video Link


Old one is dead..



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reply posted on 12-7-2008 @ 12:31 PM by TeslaandLyne


Thats the one I found when looking on this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So what I said there goes for here as well.

EV cars smashed or vapor carburetors smashed by Standard Oil at the
end of WWII. The Illuminati always wins.

And then adding water in the 1950s making the vapor carburetor useless.



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reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 12:46 PM by KathyT


Maybe there is hope!

Here is what they're doing outside of America!

Making sensible cars! ZERO Emission, No Noise.

In Canada. Hurrah to Canada!

Watch this: www.flixxy.com...

It plugs into any electrical outlet. No electric charging station is needed.

I would buy one today if I could.

Send email out to all of your friends about the Google movie and about the ZENN car. Write Congress! Getting the word out is a way that the message can get to Congress and America's auto makers!



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reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 01:05 PM by zappafan1


What all the books and discussions on this matter didn't tell you....... the environmental whackos caused the downfall of the electric car.

Also, no-one really wanted the original electric car because it was too small, too slow, ugly and very unsafe. Period.



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reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 01:12 PM by zappafan1


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The ZENN car is small, ugly and sure looks like it would smash to a tin foil ball in a front/rear collision of any force.
Zero emissions???? Modern power plants are very climate friendly, but they still produce emissions when people use electricity..... like charging an electric car!! With a range so mileage range so low (15 miles max one-way, to be safe)
the car would be in the scrap yard long before it paid for the investment.



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reply posted on 7-4-2009 @ 01:29 AM by TeslaandLyne


Power transmission without wires was demonstrated by HP
for wireless power to computers and components.

Unfortunately they used spiral coils as big, but not as many turns,
as the one behind the sitting Tesla.

There may be an antenna method, with the ball on top, to
transmit loss less power such that only the car picking up the
energy is the loss.

Hopefully this does not entail high voltage that gives the ground
hotfoot potentials.

A line of roadside power station, using atomic power, would power
each car.

Then of course each car might have it own atomic power source.

Gee, sounds like talk from 80 years ago when people foolishly
talked about atomic energy. What the heck were they talking
about.



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reply posted on 7-4-2009 @ 02:29 AM by thepresidentsbrain


Who killed The Electric Car is an important documentary film - A must watch!

From what I can gather the people who were shown in the film have started up an organisation.

"Plug In America is a coalition of RAV4-EV drivers, former lessees of Honda EV+, GM EV1, Ford Ranger and Ford Th!nk City electric cars, and advocates of clean air and energy independence. Prior to 2008, we functioned as a loose network of individuals organized around websites of various names (like dontcrush.com and saveEV1.com) and then coalesced as a chapter of the Electric Auto Association. On January 2, 2008 Plug In America became a separate California Non-Profit Corporation. On August 18, 2008, we received our determination from the IRS, and we became an official 501(c)(3) public charity!"

Plug In America



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reply posted on 26-5-2009 @ 01:57 PM by - A 13 -


If you want to know who kill the electric car, just search who is
the most powerful players in oil



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reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 08:49 PM by C-JEAN


AARRRGGGHHHH ! ! !

I just did see the docu, on TV about the electric car, and the battery
is NOT GUILTY ! ! !

AARRRGGGHHHH ! ! ! The B^5T^RD5 ^55 HOLE5 who stoped and killed
the EV1 make me soooo ANGRY ! ! ! And that was inside 2003-2005 ! !
AARRRGGGHHHH ! !

Blue skies !



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