Mass bible deception end times

the bible says in the end times all will be decieved and there will be amass apsotated, (which means renucation of religous vows) what do you all think we have been decieved about that pretty much includes all of us, the only thing i could think of is religon itself, wether your christian, muslum, jewish etc, so the question must be what is deceiving about religon? what are your thoughts on this

The entire Christian faith as been embedded with deception and lies since it was taking by Constintine.

Yes, the Deed of Constintine.

Its religious anachronisms coupled with hubris mundane leaders has detracted its veracity.

I think confusion will occur in religions tainted by Judeo-christians.

Iv always found the the catholic church to be a bit "myopic" at times.

Deep

yes but you have to remember all are deceived, that includes those that are not of the christian faith

Im not christian, nor is my family.
We are yet to be decieved. And I can speak for my entire Sikh community.

Deep

But how do you know your not deceived, or will be decived in the future at the right time

I believe that the deception talked about apply to those in charge. Thus Pope Paul has knowing that there shall come a falling away from the faith at the end times has tried to strengthen his bishops or are they cardinals ?with those who believe in the trinity of God. The false Christ will have this deceptive religous leader who will work the Mass deception upon the whole world. Peace, Peace shall they shout only to be broken when the deception is seen with WWIII starting.

Michael

Ark-Angel do you think that the deceptive leader who will work the mass deception will be a pope

Originally posted by Grouch
The entire Christian faith as been embedded with deception and lies since it was taking by Constintine.

explain yourself !

What exactly did King Constantine do ?
Dont go saying things of such, without FACTS present in your statement!

Do you know what a KING stands for?
Why do we have kings?

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour� (Rom. 13:1-7).
The same idea was expressed by St. Peter: �Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent for the praise of them that do well.
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: as free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as he servants of God� (1 Pet. 2:13-16).

more on what Kings do and suppose to be.
www.google.com.au...:J-O3qyJMt1YJ:www.3saints.com/ustav_mp_russ_english.html+why+is+the+King+significant+in++Russian+orthodox&hl=en &ie=UTF-8

i think that in the end times those who know the true religoin and are ready tehy will progress to the next whatever heaven crap er sumtin and the stupid selfist materialist satanistic ppl will go back here(hell)

Originally posted by helen670

Originally posted by Grouch
The entire Christian faith as been embedded with deception and lies since it was taking by Constintine.

explain yourself !

What exactly did King Constantine do ?
Dont go saying things of such, without FACTS present in your statement!

Do you know what a KING stands for?
Why do we have kings?

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour� (Rom. 13:1-7).
The same idea was expressed by St. Peter: �Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent for the praise of them that do well.
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: as free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as he servants of God� (1 Pet. 2:13-16).

more on what Kings do and suppose to be.
www.google.com.au...:J-O3qyJMt1YJ:www.3saints.com/ustav_mp_russ_english.html+why+is+the+King+significant+in++Russian+orthodox&hl=en &ie=UTF-8

Helen still talking her usual nonsense.

Constantine wasn't even a king, he was an emperor. Learn the difference.

And Constantine was the one who corrupted Christianity. He was by no way a christian.. He was an open pagan who practiced it with a passion.

He added his pagan customs into Christianity, which is why Christianity expanded the way it did.

It wasn't no Jesus christ little miracle that christianity spread around the roman empire like a wildfire.

I think thedeception that is talked about in the end times, especially Revelation, talks about the deception of the anti-christ. One of the signs is false prophets claiming to be Jesus.

www.jdhigdon.net...

Illmatic67 beat me to my reply.......

Ok, sorry, I was refering to King Constantine of Greece!
(Which is another story on the end of times...and the Antichrist)


QUOTE////Saint Emperor Constantine /306-337/, whom historians called the Great, was the son of Caesar Constantius Chlorus,
who used to rule in Gaul and Britain in the West of the Roman Empire.
Constantius Chlorus did not persecute Christians, while in the rest of the Roman Empire they were severely victimized.

Saint Empress Helena, the mother of Emperor Constantine, was a Christian and brought up her child to respect the religion.

After inheriting his father's power the first thing Saint Constantine did was to proclaim Christianity freedom in his countries.
In a number of wars he defeated his enemies, Pagan fanatics.
When Constantine was begging God to give him a sign inspiring his army to fight bravely, a shining Cross reading "Win with it" appeared in the sky.

When he became a sovereign ruler of the Roman Empire's Western part, in 313 Constantine issued the Milan toleration edict, while in 323, having ascended the throne of the whole Roman Empire,
he also made the Milan edict valid in the Eastern part of the Empire.
For the first time after 300-years persecution Christians got an opportunity to openly practice their religion.

Besides, Constantine moved his capital from the Pagan Rome to the east, Byzantium, which came to be renamed into Constantinople.
Being deeply convinced that the Christian religion alone could unite the heterogeneous Roman Empire, Constantine did everything to support the Orthodox Church, returned preachers from their exiles, built churches and helped the clergy.

The Emperor sent his mother,
Empress Helena, to Jerusalem to find the Holy Cross, on which Jesus Christ had been crucified. In 326 the search was crowned with success.
For great services before the Church and hard work to find the Holy Cross Empress Helena was called Saint.

When the Empire faced destructive for the Church heresy of Arius, who had dared to deny the divinity of God's Son, Constantine ordered to summon the First Oecumenical Council.
Therefore, in 325 a total of 318 bishops gathered in the town of Nicea.
The Council denounced the Arius heresy and made up a Christian symbol - a fundamental Orthodox dogma.

the first Emperor to become Christian, and his mother - a conversion which subsequently ended 300 years of persecution against the Church.

Originally posted by Gollwog
Ark-Angel do you think that the deceptive leader who will work the mass deception will be a pope

No the EU fits the song Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall being the OLd Roman Empire being put back together again. This leader will confirm a 7 year peace treaty with the Jews only to be broken half way thru. The Pope is that religious person who helps rule in the end time with perhaps a single religion being forced on a world. Thus a One world Gov, religion, money, etc. and anyone without the Mark or name of the beast shall face death.

Michael

[Edited on 16-1-2004 by Ark-Angel]

[Edited on 16-1-2004 by Ark-Angel]

Originally posted by Gollwog
the bible says in the end times all will be decieved and there will be amass apsotated, (which means renucation of religous vows) what do you all think we have been decieved about that pretty much includes all of us, the only thing i could think of is religon itself, wether your christian, muslum, jewish etc, so the question must be what is deceiving about religon? what are your thoughts on this

This is what I know... (And for the record ZIONIST does NOT imply Jewish ethnicity. It is POLITICAL. For example Dick Cheney is a NEO CON ZIONIST. But hey - you asked us what we thought....) This is one of the most insideous of our problems. Outside control of our government. Mass media brainwashing. As Neil Postman put it, we are "Amusing Ourselves to Death." Racism. Poverty. Rampant drug abuse. Pornography bleeding into every aspect of entertainment... all of these things bring us to the falling away, or the apostasy, as you put it. The scary thing is, the scriptures say, "in the last days, were it not for the return of Christ, even the elect would be fooled." Even the elect. Below is an article, written by a Jewish man who sees through all the BS, to the true heart of the matter.

911 An Inside Job, America
Now Under Zionist Control
Commentary
By Danny Goldberg
[email protected]
Tel Aviv, Israel
1-11-4


Dear Mr. Rense,

Since you posted our two earlier articles :

rense.com... and www.rense.com...
we received awesome information from around the world, also from Intel sources. Our group consists of Israelis in Israel and Israelis who already succeeded to escape to other countries.

The total consensus of all of us, as well as almost all the email we received, is that 911 was an inside job. We spent already over a year analyzing all other possibilities, NO ONE ELSE COULD HAVE DONE IT. The White House 'confirmed' our posted conclusions (in your articles) by not allowing any free investigation of 911. The Fact that all of your Zionist controlled congress and senate (pathetic) are cooperating with Bush in the 911 cover-up, proved our point. We have NEVER seen such level of high treason against the American people, or in world history.

Further, we would like to alert gullible Americans to wake up and realize that you are already under what we call essentially 'Zionist Martial Law.' Your military is already patrolling your streets under the fictional excuse of 'protecting you from terrorists' while in reality the NWO is getting you used to the chains around your neck. Your civil rights have been taken away from you, your freedom to travel has been curtailed seriously. You do not trust your military anymore after 911. Politicians (Sen. Wellstone), whistle blowers, Generals, scientists, journalists and more, are assassinated when disagreeing with the NWO. Unless you agree with the White House, you can not open your mouth in today's fascist America, you will be either labeled 'unpatriotic' or and 'antisemite'.

Your government is encouraging you to spy on your neighbours in a growing 'snitch' culture. You can be arrested without a court order and no one will even know that you were arrested. Your bank MUST disclose all your financial information to your government without court order. Chemtrails are poisoning your skies. Peculiar 'new' NWO created diseases are sprouting around America almost monthly. Your money is becoming worthless and an economic collapse is just around the corner, another possible perfect reason for the NWO to declare true Martial Law.

The Mexican hordes are swarming across your non-existent border and each one of them will get an American passport from Bush. We are very lucky in Israel, we do not have to learn to speak Spanish. DO NOT be surprised if Bush will order American passports to be printed in Spanish, too. And do not be surprised if Bush will send these 'fresh' American/Mexican 'citizens' to massacre Iraqis, after all, they have to prove that they are a 'good' Americans, right? Pretty soon, you may be told that 'bin Laden' is responsible for a dirty nuke lit off in an American city, and therefore total Martial Law is needed. The Zionists control virtually ALL your politicians and media, just like in Israel. Bribes, vicsious blackmail, backroom deals, drug use, corruption, murder, constant lying...WELCOME TO HELL.
the rest: www.rense.com...

One other reason so many people are deceived - who claim to be Christians - is because they do not have any real understanding of what the scriptures say. They rely on their preachers and pastors once a week to give 'em a little bible study or sermon. That doesn't get it. Every believer should arm himself/herself with the knowledge of what the bible says. Do not rely on anyone to give you the truth. Learn it for yourself. Besides, anyone who claims to know and serve the Lord would WANT to read it for themselves. If you know it for yourself, you will not be led astray.