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Well done by both. Genya's arguments were well given and with a little more time involved in the debating forum, GovConpiracy will be a threat to most.
The key to this debate is having the strongest argument for what context to take. You can look at Peace from a worldview or personal standpoint, or a mixture of both (but that's unusual), but you must say why.
With this in mind, I was looking for GovConpiracy to defend his position, or why we should define Peace within a world view context. But at best he he asked the judges to "feel the way he feels" and "understand that I feel this way due to several factors that I have closely examined recently." No stronger explanation was forthcoming.
But that doesn't give Genya the win, because the topic is in the negative form, so Genya must show the judges why Peace is not an illusion. He establishes this by asking the judges to look outside and evaluate the environment they are in. As a judge I must say my environment is peaceful. So Peace can not be an illusion.
He then points out that Peace is maintained for most people, even those in war torn countries. By establishing the personal viewpoint, Peace is seen as trend which is only intermittently interrupted by violence, not destroyed. In this context, supported by Genya, Peace is enduring and not an illusion. Genya wins because of this simple demostration, where GovConpiracy offered none.
This very difficult abstract subject was not "fought" at all, but truly debated by both sides in a sincere and concrete manner. Hats off to both for moving appeals. Genya, however, moved both my mind and heart.
Holy smokes.......Great debate. Genya won this one. She was a little more articulate,and a a bit more prepared. GovConpiracy was a little slower out of the gate,but came on really strong at the end. Good job to both debators.
This was a tough one to call, a very good debate. Whilst I felt both argued there points strongly, I believe that Genya showed with great clarity that with the exception of extreme circumstances (e.g. 9/11), people in there general life and those around them live in peace. This swung it for me.
Genya, you expressed your opinions in a most candid and understanding manner, and I commend you for the manner in which you swayed your oppositions opening statement. Nice work!
Originally posted by Kano
Ok, a majority has been reached.....
.... She was a little more articulate .... Congratulations Genya.