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Originally posted by intrepid
I've been doing some thinking lately about the political process in the States. I've contended in the past that it has been jacked by neither party but that those parties have been jacked by something BIGGER.
Bush/Clinton, the two headed coin. Do a Google image search, Slick Willy seems buddy buddy with both Bush presidents.
Now let's look at these presidents. What political credentials did Dubya bring to the table? 5 years as a governor? That's an adequate pedigree to run the strongest country in the world? Let's not go to his private business ventures. Hell, even Reagan did 2 full terms as Gov, lost a presidential bid before he got there. Clinton did even more, 12 years as gov, losing and rewining governorship.
How about Daddy Bush? 8 years as VP, one term as Prez. What did he do before that? Seen here. Man, he bounced around a lot, for short periods of time. Does "troubleshooter" come to mind? Including the CIA. Revisit those Google images again.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS? Can America vote 3rd party. They're cleaner than the Big Two, now. Now might be the only time left.
Originally posted by yeahright
Bush/Clinton, the two headed coin. Do a Google image search, Slick Willy seems buddy buddy with both Bush presidents.
But is this so unreasonable? Just because they're on opposite sides of a political aisle doesn't mean they have to be mortal enemies. These are intelligent guys. They can disagree and still be affable.
Now let's look at these presidents. What political credentials did Dubya bring to the table? 5 years as a governor? That's an adequate pedigree to run the strongest country in the world? Let's not go to his private business ventures. Hell, even Reagan did 2 full terms as Gov, lost a presidential bid before he got there. Clinton did even more, 12 years as gov, losing and rewining governorship.
And don't forget, Truman was a high school graduate. Had no college, at all. Started a clothing store and went bankrupt. Couple Senate terms, but no real executive type experience as in a governorship.
I just don't happen to believe in a unified, monolithic, uber secret cabal of hand-wringing, cat-petting, EEEEvile reptoids. Or even anything approaching that.
And don't be too despondent about the lack of response. I think we're all shell shocked over whether to flag, tag, star, or ignore a post. Levels of complexity.
Originally posted by intrepid
I never saw Carter and Nixon carrying on. Or Carter and Reagan. Or Reagan and Bubba.
Those were different times though. America wasn't a superpower yet. The world was much bigger then. BTW, was Truman's presidency what one would call a success? I looked into it and looked like there was a fair bit of strife there.
Originally posted by yeahrightI just don't happen to believe in a unified, monolithic, uber secret cabal of hand-wringing, cat-petting, EEEEvile reptoids. Or even anything approaching that.
Originally posted by interpid
No, I wouldn't go that far either. But power behind the power? Quite possible imo. Hoover is a good example. Not an elected official but one with immense power.