Why do people take spiritual religion more seriously than UFO/Alien religions?

I mean, you tell someone your Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, or Wiccan, or something, people generally don't think your crazy. I mean they all believe in something supernatural. Wiccans believe in magic, which defies science, technically, and the Abrahamic religions also defy science, but those are all okay.

But if you tell people your a Raelian, which is a scientific religion, people think your absurd because it involves aliens. Yet I've always been of the belief that the idea of Aliens was more likely and scientific than say angels and spirits.

Seriously why are people so closed minded to alien based religions?

Also if this belongs in the religion forum please move it there.

you are absolutely right in the sense they are all belief systems. If someone had started an ET religion 2000 years ago maybe it would be as big as christianity or islam today.

psychic ability, crystal energy,alien abduction, talking to the dead & christianity are examples of belief systems. For all i know they might be true but being an intelligent human being i like to question "beliefs" what makes 1 belief more credible than another?

when you step back from them all you realise they all work in the exact same way. It just depends on the person who is listening what they are likely to believe.

Im always amazed how willing people are to believe in something that they are told is universally true & part of their identity- of course its easier to implement that beleif in someone while they are very young. It took me 25 years to rid myself of any belief in the christian God.

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Hi ! I don't know if I'm opposed to alien-based religions or not because until reading your post, I wasn't aware any alien-based religions existed, apart from Scientology.

What do alien-based religions believe in, promise, preach, advocate?

Is there an alien-god figure? Is it male, female, neither?

I might be interested, I suppose. Depends on what alien-based religion has to offer.

I might be *really* interested if alien-based religion could gaurantee that after physical death, I wouldn't be required to spend eternity around certain of the people I've encountered here on good ole earth.

And I'd be a very possible convert if alien-based religion offered some gaurantee of justice and reward for the downtrodden, the gentle, the kind, the shy, the decent, the disadvantaged, the self-effacing, the humble, the meek.

However, if alien-based religion is prepared to grant Cheyney, Bush, Blair, those who orchestrated 9-11, those who spend their lives concocting toxins and poisons to be added to innocents' food, water, air, medicines, vaccinations, etc. so much as a shack on the outskirts of alien-heaven -- then I won't be joining, sorry.

Instead, I'll look for a religion that's prepared to force Cheyney, both Bushes, the satanic scientists, Kissinger, BigPharma, BigBusiness, Blair, Rice and several dozen others including members of pedophile rings and child abusers and those who hurt animals and drug makers and pushers and pornographers and 90 percent of the lawyers ..... to live for a very long time in the world they've ruined for us and for our grandchildren.

If alien-religion can promise all that, then sure, get them to give me a call or send me a brochure. Thanks :-)

dock6 demonstrated my point very well, tell him exactly what he wants to hear and he will buy into it. Probably even send you money.

p.s dock i know your response was light hearted but you still demonstrated my point.

I can only speak for myself of course, but when it comes to aliens & ufo's, to paraphrase Gertrude Stein's observation of California, "there's no there, there."

I don't readily identify with any major religion, but I've gained valuable insight from the Tao te Ching, Upanishads, the Hebrew prophets, sayings of Jesus, Socrates, Confucius, among others. I've tried to come to grips with the miasma of writings on aliens and ufos, and I just scratch my head. Perhaps my penchant for thousands of years of self-reflecting philosophical and mystical thought is provincial in an age of Raelian sexiness.

I do find the raelian religion a little odd, but I am open minded so I don't disrespect them at all. I believe anything is possible. I believe any of the religions could be right or wrong and I don't think we have 100% proof to show if they are right or wrong. I guess you could say I'm agnostic, which is somewhere between atheism and theism.

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I am sorry but I must say this; all of the religions at this point in our human evolution and societal level of consciousness is simply nonsense. You take the picture of whomever Jesus Buddha krishna Mohammad etal and insert picture of new dogma of choice. It is all from the mind and the mind does not have the capacity or the intelligence levels to even create something new. It is ALL created from the past.This one resonates with you more and helps you change the religion of your parents, but it is still the same quality. The pathless path is a voyage you must make alone. The rest is just more social interferance. The main message that all of the past enlightened Masters have tried to tell you is that you will never get it untill you find it within. Just my oppinion.

I'm not talking about Scientology, btw. I think Scientology is complete bull because you have to pay and it simply sounds like a whole load of insanity that someone just pulled out of nowhere.

I'm more talking about Raelism. I'm not a Raelian, but to be honest I read all about it and I think its actually not that bad. Basically what Raelians believe is that well they interpret all the supernatural things that happened in the Abrahamic religions (and some other religions) as intervention from extraterrestrial beings. For instance they think that a UFO led the Israelites out of Egypt, that Moses and the Israelites were led to mount Sinai by a UFO, that when the prophet Muhammed supposedly rose to heaven at the site of the Dome of the Rock he actually went aboard a UFO, etc. (In before someone gets offended. )

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Jesus may have been a hybrid? Seems to me some are on the point while others are thinking well-their up there and soon I'll get pic or vid.
I can understand that thinking, but for the moment..let's go back to the 'northern star'?

Dallas

Originally posted by Kacen
I mean, you tell someone your Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, or Wiccan, or something, people generally don't think your crazy. I mean they all believe in something supernatural. Wiccans believe in magic, which defies science, technically, and the Abrahamic religions also defy science, but those are all okay.

But if you tell people your a Raelian, which is a scientific religion, people think your absurd because it involves aliens. Yet I've always been of the belief that the idea of Aliens was more likely and scientific than say angels and spirits.

Seriously why are people so closed minded to alien based religions?

Also if this belongs in the religion forum please move it there.

Aliens exist. They hate to call themselves "aliens" or "visitors", etc. But they love to call themselves God, Angels, Goddesses, or anything powerful ... people to kneel before You.

Religion shapes people's spirits. But religion makes you blind. Believing in aliens, also makes you blind.So what's the difference calling someone an alien, or an angel? The result is the same.

Nice thread!

I'm not sure I'm into about actual alien related religions other than just admitting that indeed aliens do exist and have been visiting us and we all creations of a high force.

However, it is truly amazing that people would rather believe an old story told 100 years after someone died, written almost 2,000 years ago by many different authors with little to no corroborating evidence outside of the gospels than hundreds or even thousdans of credible people who are alive today who have disclosed thier experiences with UFO's.

If 400 credible experts told me that cheese gave you cancer, I would believe them. When 400 credible experts say that aliens are real, no one wants to believe yet these same people believe word for word texts written 2,000 years ago which in themselves were written at least 40-50 years after Jesus died.

As George Michael says, "Gotta have faith a faith a faith"

Originally posted by I am youBelieving in aliens, also makes you blind.

Does it? I'd at the very least say it makes you less blind than believing in, say, angels.

But I'm not sure what your getting at.

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Originally posted by Kacen

Originally posted by I am youBelieving in aliens, also makes you blind.

Does it? I'd at the very least say it makes you less blind than believing in, say, angels.

But I'm not sure what your getting at.

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Yes. Because people know less about aliens, than gods and angels. But aliens have very beautiful things to show, angels don't have these to show. Because they have religion/law as well, as humans have.

I would like to see a real UFO, because it is technology. Until then, I can only believe in it. People, who would like to feed on believers, make others blind by advertising their fame.

Same with religion, but religion has its cultural background because of past times.

Personally I think anyone who worships alien based religions are misguided, but I'll explain why in a second.
However anyone who believes in aliens in general is ridiculed by people who worship a god that has done nothing to prove his existence since the first word of the Bible was written down. People who believe in aliens should not be mocked, thats what they choose to believe so accept it. If I mocked someone who believed in Allah, or God, or Yahweh, or Buddha I'd be labelled something negative that probably ends in -ist.

The reason I think people who worship in alien based religions are misguided is because aliens, like us, are just beings. No one should worship another being who is different than oneself. I do not worship the athlete who runs faster, or the celebrity who goes in and out of rehab, so I will not worship an alien who can travel across space. I will respect them, be in awe of them and possibly fear them a little, but it doesn't make them gods, or the equivalent of gods.
They are just people.

My opinion is - - most traditional organzied religions are based in Fear. (excluding natural earth beliefs).

They are not based in logic or science.

I personally believe everything is energy - - and in energy intelligence.

Our are the aliens our gods? Ascension, immmacualte conception, voices from the sky?

Religion is a closely held belief in something and soon Science will catch up. It is only a matter of time and then their will be a strong division. Look at stem cell research and cloning.

I respect anyones belief as llong as it is not to kill me.

The Raelian Philopsophy actually closely resembles my belief system but I am not a Raelian. Raelian Philosophy makes a hell of a lot more sense than scientology or any of the other UFO religions. The Raelians are portrayed badly by the media and many lies are told about them. They are not a sex cult. Rael also had nothing to do with the baby that one of the Raelian members named Bridgette Bossillere supposedly cloned..Yes they do promote sexuality, but they don't have orgies at the seminars. LOL

why do people believe in God but not alien life?

I personally believe an "alien-based" religion makes far more sense than your traditional religion, because there probably are aliens out there, whereas there is no logical reason to think that there is an all-powerful supernatural entity in the sky known as, "God."

However, I agree with JackofBlades in that worshiping an alien race is quite misguided. Why worship another civilization just because it is older than ours, or has fancier technology? Also, I don't think the Raelian Church is any better than any other religion. It was still founded by one person, Rael, who offered up no evidence whatsoever to support his views. It is quite possible that he just made up all his fanciful stories, just as it is quite possible that the prophets of other religions 'embellished' the facts somewhat.

For me, it's a matter of age. I'm skeptical of all religions, but you've gotta give credit to the ones that have lasted for thousands of years, and be a little bit extra-skeptical of the ones that have been around less than a hundred years.

Also I think it's worth noting that religions based around a deity are usually built on faith. Which means that the existence of the central figure of their beliefs defies proof. With religions based around aliens, the existence of their central figure demands proof.