Thank you Karilla
I want to share a link with you guys. It is the first interview I ever heard with Terence McKenna on the Art Bell Show in 97. Once I heard him start
talking about time I could't stop listening for the entire 3 hour interview.
Seriously, believe in 2012 or not you are really missing out if you don't at least check out some of his ideas. Time travel, technology, ancient
cultures, psychedelics, UFOs, he discusses and ties in all of these things.
Here is an excerpt of the interview
TM: Well, so in looking at this, I created a vocabulary ... actually I borrowed it from Alfred North Whitehead ... but I think I'm on to something
which science has missed, and it's this; it's that the universe, or human life or an empire or an ecosystem, any large scale or small scale process,
can be looked at as a dynamic struggle between two qualities which I call habit and novelty. And I think they're pretty self explanatory. Habit is
simply repetition of established patterns, conservation, holding back what has already been achieved into a system, and novelty is the chance-taking,
the exploratory, the new, the never-before-seen.
And these two qualities--habit and novelty--are locked in all situations in a kind of struggle. But the good news is that if you look at large scales
of time, novelty is winning, and this is the point that I have been so concerned to make that I think science has overlooked. If you look back through
the history of the human race, or life on this planet, or of the solar system and the galaxy, as you go backward in time, things become more simple,
more basic. So turning that on its head, we can say that as you come towards the present things become more novel, more complex.
So I've taken this as a universal law, affecting historical processes, biological processes and astrophysical processes. Nature produces and
conserves novelty, and what I mean by that, as the universe cools the original cloud of electron plasma, eventually atomic systems form, as it further
cools molecular systems, then long-chain polymers, then non-nucleated primitive DNA-containing life, later complex life, multi-cellular life, and this
is a principle that reaches right up to our dear selves. And notice, Art, it's working across all scales of being. This is something that is as true
of human societies as it is of termite populations or populations of atoms in a chemical system. Nature conserves, prefers novelty. And the
interesting thing about an idea like this is that it stands the existentialism of modern philosophy on its head ... you know, what modern, atheistic
existentialism says is that we're a cosmic accident and damn lucky to be here, and any meaning you get out of the situation, you're simply
conferring. I say, no ... by looking deeply into the structure of nature, we can discover that novelty is what nature produces and conserves, and if
that represents a universal value system, then the human world that we find today with our technologies and our complex societies represents the
greatest novelty so far achieved, and suddenly you have a basis for an ethic--that which advances novelty is good, that which retards it is to be
looked at very carefully.
Here is a transcript of the interview
TM on Art Bell 97
The site I posted before has the actual radio interview along with later interviews, and tons of other TM stuff
I also think it's funny how alot of your who are skeptical obviously don't even try and find answers, just say things like 'o everyone predicts
doomsdays and they don't come true'. 2012 isn't even really about doom. Obviously nobody can PROVE the future, but there is far more evidence than
lack of it. Saying the world will end in the new millenium is one thing. Saying the end of an era will come on 12-21-2012 is an enirely more
How are you not intrigued enough to look into it a little deeper?
[edit on 30-4-2007 by Mushroom Fields Forever]