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posted on Nov, 22 2002 @ 09:47 PM
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Religions, disciplines and philosophies on personal discipline seems to be as necessary to the human psyche as water is to the body.
If a OWO/NWO were to attempt to capture the entire world and all its people, it'll have to have a controlling belief system.
What pre-existing belief system or faith, or a combination of disciplines and faiths do you think will be used to better control the world population?

Will perfectly coiffed hair, or little orange robes be necessary?




posted on Nov, 22 2002 @ 10:10 PM
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Wise to distinuish between religions and "philosophies", Thomas, since we are aware that "godless" systems such as Communism have been banners for world domination ( might one say the same for capitalism?) and there are systems where the line is hard to draw e.g. Confucianism.
It seems hard to imagine a "new" religion - but I guess they were saying that in 1BC.
I'd go for a vague sort of "according to your conscience" religion -in the French Revolution they tried this: having a Supreme Being but not actually tying him to any given denomination, and there is much of this in the woolly-mind, liberal "tolerance", "All Gods are one" nonsense so pervasive to-day.
A sort of loose "everyone is right" capitalism would seem to be the future.



posted on Nov, 22 2002 @ 10:11 PM
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I'd add to that the point that any fixed system inevitably invites apostasy, heresy and opposition -but if "everyone is right" who can object?



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 01:25 AM
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A Non denominational system of beleif which is secular and promotes moderate responses.

A rose by any other name still smells as sweet



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 04:36 AM
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No, there can never be a one world religion, paganism was the closest thing to it, but still people worshipped their gods in their own ways.

The only way there can be a "one world order" that is secular, is if it were like communism which forces athiesm...any ideology would do though, capitalism so on so forth. But they must be "non-religious".

It is Ironic that religion, which to the person can take away so many freedoms, has spared us from the alternative which is no religion in which we are all slaves to one master who determines all that we shall think.

Much like "The beast" in revelations? And if I'm correct the beast is brought about in a time when the world becomes irreligious no? And god asks you to turn back to him or all be judged?

Hmm...well...there you have it, ecclesiastical religions (unavoidable if you believe in anything) always devide and oppose eachother. It's a sociological fact.

Sincerely,
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posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 07:12 AM
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www.rumormillnews.com...

If you're the type to believe Rayelan from Rumor Mill News, the "new world religion" will be based on the late Princess Diana.



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 08:55 AM
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F-M, the world will by no means be without religion during the time of the beast, which is the Great Tribulation, and the people will be easily swayed to worship the beast.
Several authors through the couple of decades have speculated that the new religion for the new ages and the NWO is the hybrid Hinduistic Rainbow Religion that has been forming the last several decades.
Beats me. It definitely won't be an ecclesiastical religion, as you say, for obvious reasons. Unless one takes on a mutation, such as The Church, which later became the Catholic church, took many pagan rituals and practices into its own system.



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 09:26 AM
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It wont actually be a new system. The new religion that is to come is
to come from satan. Who through his people bring upon the world the new age movement.

It has struck our vatican ll.

Our pope promotes all religions as true.

he is paving the way for the antichrist, he is the false prophet i believe.

It will be brought upon in the name of (((peace))).

All religions will come together in the one acknowledge of god, not a certain type of belief. The world will enter
a false era of peace where all religions join together and acknowledge a common god.

Wars will cease, man will be in "peace", all religions will be true.

why?

They all share a common belief in god.


Thus the truth of god is destroyed. jesus becomes not god and a regular man.

Those who have great faith that he is the lord will be put in prison or
killed by the governments.


Most on this board love this idea, and so you shall see it happen.


But jesus will creat his sign in the sky, he will chastise us, and we will know he is the lord in the end
though.

jesus said....

"" When i come back i wonder if "any" faith will be left ""


Thomas, don't become one of those who doubt jesus because you (will) be tested in the
future.

Like all faithfull christians will be.


Btw, no the catholic church did not put pagan rituals in its worship.

Thats nonsense. thousands of saints all worshipped (jesus).

Im catholic and i worship only jesus/God.

I have studied the faith and it condemns any sort of paganism.

You misunderstand everything you (hear) on the internet about our church.

Study it before judging it so much.

peace.



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 09:39 AM
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I don't propose to judge anything, I compare what I see my Catholic friends do, or say they do, or say they are suppose to do, anyway, and then I compare it to the KJV 1611. I realize you guys have other books besides those in the KJV 1611, but one thing is to be sure, if it is to be with the collection of writings sanctioned and inspired by God, it'll be harmonious with the message. I don't know if it is a book or in a ritual only, but I'll not kiss the toe of a statue or the ring of any man, nor shall I pray to a dead human being that can do nothing to or for me.
As far as losing my faith in Christ, there is no reason to believe that I would do such a thing. I have merely asked an objective question in relation to our general board theme - conspiracy. We were created to worship, to believe, no attempt to conquor would be complete or successful without a system of worship.
Don't fret so much about this pope, Truth. Be very afraid of the next one.



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 09:58 AM
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Not always sure I understand what posters mean by "pagan" or "ritual", but I'd certainly agree with Thomas that recorded history indicates an ever-present human need to "believe".
Thomas does well to mention the 'conspiracy" aspect.
My feeling (it's no stronger than that) is that we are seeing Western establishments fostering ever-greater "tolerance" so that nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so -as the Bard says.
Increasingly, ours is a world where the individual creates his or her own religion and anyone adhering to dogma is written off as a crank.
It is not hard to see why governments would welcome the elimination of organised religion in favour of some sort of woolly individualistic theism or deism.
Where religion no longer provides a general moral code, governments need fear little.



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 01:06 PM
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is the new religion....

"Whatever you beleive is your belief only, it should have no effect on my life"

"Don't impose your Judeo-chrisian beliefs on our society, we arn't interested"

"There are no right answers" "There is no right and wrong"

"Keep your religion in your church"

Relativism, spawned in the universities denies that there are absolutes in life, and sets all belief systems o the same level, from a belief in water monsters in the river to the 10 Commandments - all are equal.

We see relativism here on the board every day "My ideas are as good as your's even if I don't know anything and am only 15."

Relativism says that there is truth in all things, but shows that there is truth in nothing....

This is our new religion, it already is eating away at the fabric of our society

"1 parent families are as good as 2 parent families"

"Don't blame the criminal he had a hard childhood, he's not guilty of his actions"

"Chrisitnaity should not be in public life in case we upset other beleif systems"





[Edited on 23-11-2002 by Netchicken]



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 05:45 PM
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Yo NC why you putten down the Water Monsters!!!!


We gotta draw a line some where you know


Seriously we tend to place less confidence in our progeny then we
should. I tend to be very positive about the future and feel that philosophically we will become much more complex than we currently can imagine.

[Edited on 23-11-2002 by Toltec]



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 10:05 PM
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I kind of wish the world would just realise they are all worshipping the same God, only by different names. Afterall, there was only one Creator.........



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 10:56 PM
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"relativism" is indeed the word, N-C: to be seen in every aspect of what we rather laughably describe as our culture: Shakespeare isn't better than Harry Potter; Beethoven isn't better than Puff Daddy (or whatever his current name is), the culture of a Papuan frog-worshipper is as "valid" (that awful empty word) as the High Renaissance and so forth.

An entirely blurred future still seems, to me, a likely prospect, with money/possessions -the one thing it's hard to be relativistic about- the only benchmark in a world of self-appointed, self-righteous, hermetically-sealed "individualists".



posted on Nov, 23 2002 @ 11:22 PM
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the one thing it's hard to be relativistic about- the only benchmark in a world of self-appointed, self-righteous, hermetically-sealed "individualists".


During what you call the High Renaissance Estragon what is above
was alllowed only, amoungt those who were considered Royalty. Live it up Estragon eat french fries



posted on Nov, 24 2002 @ 01:50 AM
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My point entirely, Toltec: wealth remains stubbornly "un-relativistic".
And while I wouldn't mind being the inventor of "High Renaissance" - I think you'll find it's a rather old and generally-accepted label for an artistic period (not a historical one as such) among those who have ventured to open books with polysyllabic words in.



posted on Nov, 24 2002 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by FreeMason
The only way there can be a "one world order" that is secular, is if it were like communism which forces athiesm...


Originally posted by V. I. Lenin
Religion must be of no concern to the state, and religious societies must have no connection with governmental authority. Everyone must be absolutely free to profess any religion he pleases...


src: Socialism and Religion by V. I. Lenin



posted on Nov, 24 2002 @ 01:59 AM
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Yes but I do believe the reason why Religion was repressed in the Soviet Union was because it was interfering with loyalties to the government. People were hiding in Religion and in religious astablishments, from governmental controls.

I'm just going off this from what I've read about the Soviet Union, but it should be researched to find more validity if any in it.

Sincerely,
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posted on Nov, 24 2002 @ 02:11 AM
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Oh, dear.
The reference above is, of course, to Lenin in late 1905 when in the wake of Russias humiliation in the Russo-Japanese War he was sufficiently deluded to believe that Bolshevism might grasp power and therefore it was worth a few kind words to get the religious Russian masses on his side. Even then, the quotation above is widely out of context as posters may check:
www.marx2mao.org...

Compare him 4 years later when teher was no chance of power and note the change:
www.marxists.org...

And, most importantly, consider his conduct when he did have power: seizure of Church property, elimination of the Church in education and marriage etc. etc.
Those unfamiliar with Lenins famous letter on the topic to Molotov of 1922 (shooting hundreds of priests to set an example, is just one suggestion) may check it here.
www.russiannewsnetwork.com...

Oh dearsighaaarrrghpublic schoolssigh



posted on Nov, 24 2002 @ 02:23 AM
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I'll definately agree with you there, public schools in no way give any insite into what went on in our world, and WHY things happend, which is of course by FAR more important than WHAT happend.

Sincerely,
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