another cover up of moon and mars anomalies

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What I find interesting in this video is the audios at the beginning and the Phobos2 (Soviet Mars Mission) images at the end of the video. First of all I wonder if these audios are genuine or fake. In one of them the astronaut says that he encounters woth a "alien spaceship". If this is true, in that time there must be a big scandal in NASA.
The "shadow" in the Phobos2 images are also very interesting imo.

I hardly doubt thats real if so the government would have deleted all traces of the video before the tv show *if its a tv show* got to it, that and the fact that it would have been deleted off of youtube as well... Well the astronaut part, didn't really watch much of it.

[edit on 26-3-2007 by WaxPineapple]

LoL after seeing the vid of how they faked a halfway to the moon shot of the earth im highly in doubt we ever been there.

(also the van allen radiation belt is a big problem... lol in a later space shuttle mission were they went as far out as they could they started to have radiation effects.. that was like 300 miles out... let alone traversing the radiation belt to the moon 363000 km at the least of which 52000 km goes through that radiation belt)

back to what i wanted to say... what if those ufo's are screwups in the decor they filmed the fake moonlanding? lol piece of backdrop canvas ripped etc...

just having some fun. but yes i don't believe we've been to the moon. unmanned yes... manned flights.. no

at the utmost, we've been there but had to fake the footage for some reason.. but with the radiation belt i still doubt we've been there

[edit on 26-3-2007 by David2012]

[edit on 26-3-2007 by David2012]

I don't believe we have ever put foot on the moon.

But the vid seems interesting and what the talking at the start is real? And they really did see a UFO? How did the uploader mange to get hold of the footage? Because I would assume it would be very top secret.

Originally posted by David2012
LoL after seeing the vid of how they faked a halfway to the moon shot of the earth im highly in doubt we ever been there.

(also the van allen radiation belt is a big problem... lol in a later space shuttle mission were they went as far out as they could they started to have radiation effects.. that was like 300 miles out... let alone traversing the radiation belt to the moon 363000 km at the least of which 52000 km goes through that radiation belt)

The Van Allen belt is only dangerous if you linger in it. The space shuttle would have been staying in it, which is why it was dangerous to them. Apollo and the moon missions would have travelled through it as quickly as possible. That's also why when they launch space probes, they launch them on a trajectory that takes them through the thinnest portions of the belt, in as quick a manner as possible. It's more harmful to electronics than people.

I don't think traveltime through 52000 km of radiation is a short trip?

And in all the interviews astronauts from the apollo mission seem lost for words when some smartasses bring up the belt

But even besides the scientific problems a trip to the moon presents, if you look at the time, the politics the world back in those days. It makes sense that if they couldn't do it, they faked it. politics


The shuttle got radiation anomalies at 300 or 350 miles out (what i read) .. that's not even close to the start of the heavy radiation belt (van allen belt)

the belt starts at 13000 km out. the highest intensity starts at 14500 km out and extends to 19000 km.

true according van allen himself this might not be a problem. nasa says it coordinated the missions to avoid as much radiation as possible.

but then in light of politics back then... I dunno. I don't think we've set foot on it. Easier to fake and "win".

Anyone else seen the footage of astronauts in orbit faking a window shot to make it look like they are halfway to earth? that was for me the best evidence. I'll try and find it again.
It's as clear as video's from the shuttle today.

Might have just been a joke or something (screw with the new guy in control center?)?

tbh about this and lots of other things going on... Lately I really feel i don't know what to think and believe anymore.

[edit] idea just popped up into my head after posting.
About faking moon footage. An idea just hit me that would be a legitimate explanation for faked moon landing shots.
What if they went to the moon. arrived.. and when they wanted to use the camera's the film was useless because of the radiation they passed through.. already overexposed type of effect.
After they came back instead of saying we couldn't take pics/prove we were there but we were, they decided to play it safe and recreate what they did on the moon.... just an early morning idea... need some more coffee [/edit]

[edit on 27-3-2007 by David2012]

why would (if genuine) astronaut in shuttle say (2:11): "... we still have an alien spacecraft under observance..."

he could say something like 'we have an object' or 'we have a bogey', but he said ALIEN SPACECRAFT!!!

A point of criticism (just rewatched it again).

The person in the apollo video at the start has a british accent (admittedly this not evidence persay)

The audio quality seems a bit too good?

The apollo video at the start seems devoid of any professional lingo?

dunno just noticed.. I'm only hinting at the first bit with the apollo video's

Sure, the Van Allen Belt was big, but all the missions to the moon were going really really really fast. Exposure time would be trivial.

Furthermore, there never was a manned Soviet mission to Mars. Nobody's ever sent a manned mission to Mars.

I don't understand why people still think we haven't been to the moon.
If we didn't land on the moon, then someone please explain this to me:
Lunar laser ranging experiment

JohnnyCasil. Don't hold your breath. They can't.

Honestly, if NASA managed to get past the Van Allen belt their ship alone would need 6ft of lead.

No, it wouldn't, not if you were going at like a bazillion miles an hour and were consequently only in the belt for like 30 min like the Apollo missions were.

Originally posted by untilted
why would (if genuine) astronaut in shuttle say (2:11): "... we still have an alien spacecraft under observance..."

he could say something like 'we have an object' or 'we have a bogey', but he said ALIEN SPACECRAFT!!!

Exactly this made me very curious. This statement is too good (for believers) to be true, therefore I think this audio is fake. But who knows...!?

Does anyone bother to read about the Van Allen belt? Obviously not.

The Earth actually has two radiation belts of different origins. The inner belt, the one discovered by Van Allen's Geiger counter, occupies a compact region above the equator (see drawing, which also includes the trajectories of two space probes) and is a by-product of cosmic radiation. It is populated by protons of energies in the 10-100 Mev range, which readily penetrate spacecraft and which can, on prolonged exposure, damage instruments and be a hazard to astronauts. Both manned and unmanned spaceflights tend to stay out of this region.

The outer radiation belt is nowadays seen as part of the plasma trapped in the magnetosphere. The name "radiation belt" is usually applied to the more energetic part of that plasma population, e.g. ions of about 1 Mev of energy (see energy units). The more numerous lower-energy particles are known as the "ring current", since they carry the current responsible for magnetic storms. Most of the ring current energy resides in the ions (typically, with 0.05 MeV) but energetic electrons can also be found.

www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov...

the computer strength was as strong as a calculator back then. And no the apollo11 spacecraft wasnt going at "a bazillion miles an hour"
if you watch the footage, spacecraft speed isnt very fast in the late 60s.
the safety inspector filed a 500 page essay about the unsafe problems on the spacecraft. he died suspisciously.

We never went to the moon reason is, SHOW ME VIDEO OF EARTH
FROM THE MOON. Who would land on the moon and not point the camera towards earth and go WOW???????

www.solarviews.com...

You're kidding right? They HAVE taken pictures of Earth from the moon, and they DID go "WOW!" How can you NOT have seen one of the most famous pictures from the Apollo era.

Ask and ye shall receive. It's 27 minutes long and basically covers the entire flight. Towards the end you can see the video of the Earth taken from the moon.

Earth from the moon

[edit on 4/1/2007 by Zaphod58]

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