Originally posted by Pilgrum
The necessary correction of 11 degrees to the DFDR magnetic bearing puts the plane on the right course to take out the poles and consequently south of the Citgo.

But what about the police witnesses who saw the plane on the other side of the Citgo?

Also waiting for an explanation for the following.
The security camera video shows an object flying straight and level, the FDR from the plane shows the plane was in a nose down atitude.

double post

[edit on 24-7-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Bush needed a reason to go after Hussein!!!!!!!
If you look in the latest issue of the Atlanta-Hartfield newspaper in A1 and A12, Bush clearly stated that" he had no intention and won't go after bin laden. And he will probably be dead before any of us figure it out." If a plane went into the Pentagon. I've been in the Pentagon. Its dense construction. The plane would be hanging out of the building.

Think about it!!!

Sept 2nd-A memo was left from Clinton to Bush. that he felt Bin Laden was responsible for USS Cole. Bush went to Camp David and sat on his ass. And sat on it again, hosting to the Saudi's and listening to children read stories on 9/11. Foreign policy kills!!!!

US went into Kuwait. Why?

Kennedy was killed because he saw no basis for Vietnam; Has anyone notice that the Vietnam government has not or just maybe made a deal with devil to counterattack us? Johnson is Bush; Bush is Johnson.

You can not make a dictatorship country into a democracy. Look how long it took the United States to be a democracy and we still haven't got our crap together.

so if nothing to hide why run around collecting every bit of camera footage, and then months after release some footage that does not show much. hmmm i guess we will have to try and wait the 50 years till all that other footage is released.

Go to Youtube and search 757 low flyby then vertical and watch the pentagon strike flash movie. When I see the video of a 757 flying into the pentagon, I will believe the rest of the world.

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
This guy is kind of trying to make a good point IMO.

The fact that the plane also had to fly so low to make such an "attack run" at such a high speed...well, i'd most likley get sucked to the ground under the reverse pressure it has under it and crash tens of yards before it's target.

That's percision flying that even veteran commercial pilots can't pull off.

"Reverse pressure"? "Flux capacitor"? "interstellar transmogrifier"? What the heck are you talking about? What is "reverse pressure"? "Ground effect" is what wants to keep an aircraft in the air when they are low and a cushion of pressurized air builds up below the aircraft, but eventually gravity wins and no amount of ground effect air will keep something flying when lift over drag becomes nil.

"Crash tens of yards before its target?" Its amazing ANY aircraft can even land on a runway! "Reverse pressure" would cause them to crash tens of yards before the runway!! Its a miracle!

Originally posted by trebor451
Its amazing ANY aircraft can even land on a runway! "Reverse pressure" would cause them to crash tens of yards before the runway!! Its a miracle!

Landing speed of a 757 is about 160 mph?
Alleged speed of Flight AA77 was about 460 mph?

What are you trying to compare, trebor?

In your self-alleged 25 year career working for the government DoD, were you ever taught that comparisons are only useful when they're relevant?

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by trebor451
Its amazing ANY aircraft can even land on a runway! "Reverse pressure" would cause them to crash tens of yards before the runway!! Its a miracle!

Landing speed of a 757 is about 160 mph?
Alleged speed of Flight AA77 was about 460 mph?

What are you trying to compare, trebor?

In your self-alleged 25 year career working for the government DoD, were you ever taught that comparisons are only useful when they're relevant?

You going to put on your whirly-bird beanie and tell us all about "reverse pressure", at 160 OR 460 mph? get TF to help you out. or Cap't Bob. he should be up on that "reverse pressure" that will cause an aircraft to crash "tens of yards short of its target".

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by Pilgrum
The necessary correction of 11 degrees to the DFDR magnetic bearing puts the plane on the right course to take out the poles and consequently south of the Citgo.

But what about the police witnesses who saw the plane on the other side of the Citgo?

Also waiting for an explanation for the following.
The security camera video shows an object flying straight and level, the FDR from the plane shows the plane was in a nose down atitude.

Probably for the same reason that a plane flying slower can have a nose up attitude. A plane that is meant to fly most efficiently around 300 knots indicated airspeed, will be making a lot more lift at faster airspeeds, and will require some slight nose down.

Originally posted by firepilot
The Pentagon is not a top secret area... It is just the headquarters building for the DoD,

"Just"?

"JUST"??

LOL.

Yeah, come on people! The Pentagon is just the HEADQUARTERS of the Department of DEFENSE. You know, the headquarters of DEFENSE. The HQ of DEFENDING the country. So why would you think it itself would be defended? It's not SPECIAL. It's just the HQ of the department charged with defending the worlds only remaining superpower. it's just a major symbol of US power known and hated around the world after decades of US military intervention and interference around the globe. Why would you think it would be defended heavily and ringed with cameras? Why would you think it was anything special. It's really just another building, not any kind of big deal. I mean, why would anyone want to attack the Pentagon? They couldn't have imagined anyone might want to target them, could they?