Dan Burisch, hoax?

Hola mi amigos,
Ive been a lurker on here for a few years gaining knowledge,and i never had anything to post because, frankly my dear I dont give a damn. I will however state that i believe "Dr j-rod Dan Burish is a hoax.
My opinion is based on the fact that when he was interviewed by Bill Hamilton his first interview in 2002, his girlfriend "marcie" stated that she was chased by three MIB's and that one of them actually taked to her, Dan verifies this during the interview. he also has his story mixed up a few times in contrast to his 2006 interview with project camelot where his story is much more refined and flawless, and once again 'marcie interupts the interview to tell the story of her first ET encounter, only this time there is only 1 MIB chasing her and it does not speak to her it speaks to Dan, and they got blurry pictures of it.
there are many questionable inconcistencies in these two videos,believe me i wanted to believe this guy was legit, but his girlfriend screwed it all up when she opened her mouth. Hope not to offend but, i thought i would share this info. By the way the flying worm over LA is a real ship and not a fing balloon.

admin edit: to adjust title (the original was too similar to our "official" ATS hoax tag).

[edit on 11-11-2007 by Springer]

It is because of people like him that normal people are scared to be interested in Ufo's. Whenever I want to get laugh alls I have to do is watch one of his videos.

I feel bad for any one who listens to people like him...

[edit on 14-3-2007 by area51videoz]

I think it has to be understood that when listening to these people, that they are not always gonna remember things correctly and accurately. If you were to interview an old veteran of a war, and ask him to recall certain events, I'm sure they would get some things wrong, even though they aren't lying per say, they're just mistaken. Also, if what these people say is somewhat true, then we have to take in consideration the amount of debriefing they were put through, and what information was planted, vs. what real experiences they endured. Dan Burish doesn't feel like a lier to me, although I sense that hes been somewhat traumatized in some way, shape or form. The more I listen to these ex workers, the more I get a sense that they all seem messed up physcologically.

Originally posted by area51videoz
It is because of people like him that normal people are scared to be interested in Ufo's. Whenever I want to get laugh alls I have to do is watch one of his videos.

I feel bad for any one who listens to people like him...

[edit on 14-3-2007 by area51videoz]

Thats not why. People are afraid of ridicule, and what others would think. Also to realize that their are other more intelligent life, means that we aren't so special and brilliant like we love to believe. This is why most scientists wouldn't touch the subject. They feel they pretty much know everything, and for this to being taken place right in front of them, is to contradict that. Everything in the text books they've read their whole lives say things like this can't exist.

I would laugh at people who don't take these interviews seriously. I believe we should atleast take the time to hear people like these, and then make a judgment on it. I could honestly care less if people don't believe in ufos, and all of this stuff. They're just missing a good chunk of reality, thats all. Reality is only limited by your imagination.

I'm also convinced Burisch is a hoax

I'm inclined to believe he is the real deal. Just a feeling. He's talking about things beyond most people's comprehension, and I think this is exactly what people are afraid to face - that the world they knew is not the world they thought it was. If people cannot handle that, then tough. Sgt Clifford Stone speaks of the same attitude. The ufology field cannot handle that the reality of the situation doesn't fit in their neat predefined boxes. It's as simple as that.

Finally, got the real hoax goods on this guy, and it ain't pretty, on his own message board no less, check it:

www.thegoldenthread.info...

I am an unwilling agent of the Israeli government. I was coerced into many illegal acts acts against the US government because the Mossad implanted an explosive surv device in my body. I have worked...

I run three disinformation websites designed to destroy tradition religious structure....

This is from a signed (by him, numerous times) confession in the state of Nevada. The copy of it is on that page... and to think, I was blindly 'standing up' for the guy on some other thread.

Thoughts, addition info?

edit: also, he ADMITS to being one of the ANTHRAX terrorists!! Admits to NEVER being in A51, admits his cred is a "fraud" he BOUGHT his diploma, admits he's "designing non-lethal bio weapons".... on and on...

Now, who else should we go looking into a flat-out admittance of their cred?

Also, how is this guy, A. -- on the loose? He admits to sending anthrax to Daschle. He should be in prison, let alone, the fact that "experts" on this board stick up for him?! Come on people, read the confession. B. His admitted disinfo "website" was updated as recently as Sept of this year, there's some scan of MJ12 passports with his name, Druggie Senior, Tenet, all these others, why is he bothering spreading disinfo? Because he's a freaking terrorist, that's why, and the "alien ufo community" should work on getting this sick Mossad agent in prison.



[edit on 11-11-2007 by anhinga]

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I suspect this latest revelation of Burisch's is as much a fabrication as his original. He's no more of a terrorist than anyone else. He's just a guy craving attention who never met a conspiracy he didn't like or participate in at a black ops level, from UFOs to anthrax. This latest 'admission' allows him to change his story yet again. he just found another headline to plug into.

I don't think any one thing that has been brought out takes him down; it's the sum total. The OP (long ago) brought up the changing story of his girlfriend. Someone else claims she shouldn't be able to remember perfectly, so it winds up a minor issue. But like many fanciful storytellers, he gets tripped up on details. Did he get a PhD or a D.S. (Doctor of Science)? He claimed one, then the other; now he said he bought it. Three stories in one. Whenever he trips himself up, or whenever his story can't be verified, he falls back on the old "The government made me disappear" angle. His whole story is full of numerous contradictions, a few of which are here.

The stuff that can be verified is fairly mundane. He worked as a parole officer, hooked up with one of his charges, went bankrupt, worked in a casino in 'security,' (i.e.: rent-a-cop). There's nothing wrong with that--at all! People do what they need to do to support themselves and everyone isn't wildly successful. But it isn't sufficiently cloak and daggers. The rest, he made up.

(subjective)
There's another factor here that is totally subjective. I realize this up front that I can't prove this. But some people tell a good story. Lazar, for example, can get up in front of a camera and tell a good, believable story. Yeah, he's found out after the fact, but when you listen to him, he pulls it off. Burisch doesn't. Look at him prepare for the interview in one of those videos. As he's putting on the microphone someone asks him if he's okay in front of the camera. He rolls his eyes, makes a mock-exasperated face, and intones that he's done this so many times it's a piece of cake. The whole scene betrays the "B.S. factor." A good cop can tell if you are lying. I don't know what subtle clues, body language, etc. they are picking up, but Burisch puts them out by the cart load. He's lying.
(/subjective)

Originally posted by schuyler
(subjective)
There's another factor here that is totally subjective. I realize this up front that I can't prove this. But some people tell a good story. Lazar, for example, can get up in front of a camera and tell a good, believable story. Yeah, he's found out after the fact, but when you listen to him, he pulls it off. Burisch doesn't. Look at him prepare for the interview in one of those videos. As he's putting on the microphone someone asks him if he's okay in front of the camera. He rolls his eyes, makes a mock-exasperated face, and intones that he's done this so many times it's a piece of cake. The whole scene betrays the "B.S. factor." A good cop can tell if you are lying. I don't know what subtle clues, body language, etc. they are picking up, but Burisch puts them out by the cart load. He's lying.
(/subjective)

I totally agree.There for a while after watching his Project Camelot interview I was really fascinated with his claims,yet something didn't feel right about him.

It seemed when he talked about his "experiences" he was feeding his own ego,and enjoying it,as told by his body language.

Cut the egomaniacs out of Ufology and nothing will be left but truth,I say.

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I hear and agree w/ most of your points Schuyler, and btw, I sort of LOL everytime I see that dog of yours, what kind is it?

His 'forum' is a joke, it's the same three or four people quoting each other for pages on end. Pointless, but I'm still going thru it for some more evidence.

Trying to get to the root of this document, I don't doubt that claim, I remember something else about the anthrax suspects right after S11, they were let run free and years later, some scientist was often referred to as a "person of interest" I think this loser should be in that category.

Not sure why he keeps popping up, but I think one of our members, George Knapp, has first hand knowledge in dealing with the whole Burisch / Crane question and has pretty well debunked him for what he is; A guy who loves the limelight, and can tell a pretty involved tale, but who trips up on the 'details'.

From Knapp:

"In a nutshell, my personal opinion about the Dan Burisch story is that it is a total crock. Total. Complete. Not a close call. It started with lies and exaggerations, evolved into a rich tapestry of delusions and fantasy...."

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My opinion is that most of what Dan Burisch says is true.

I base that on the video tapes that I have watched of him and the information therein.

There is no possibility that Dan Burisch is a fraud or did not work at S-4.

Originally posted by johnlear
There is no possibility that Dan Burisch is a fraud

Thanks for your post johnlear. I'm just curious to what you base that^ on?

Whenever confirmed hoaxers, or storytellers without the slightest of evidence, comes out with 'far-out' stories - you are quickly there to defend them against logical questioning. It's weird to me that a man that seems intelligent (judging by a video i saw of you) want to defend/promote these unsubstained claims, without blinking. I can't help but wonder if you really believe these things, or if the agenda here is something else?

No offense J Lear or to anyone else who listens to this guy, look at this document. Maybe, just maybe there's a chance it's true. Also, I noticed you updated your signature John, any response to your writing these:

1. All of my claims are only possibilities.
2. I could be completely misinformed.
3. All of what I believe might not be true.

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Should you ignore the question, I'll take 'em at fact value... anyway, here's the document, click in it, move around w/ the arrow keys to read, it's classic. Fake? Maybe, the guy who titled it 'hoax' is his web server follower, and lately, I've really had it in for this guy and his crew:





[edit on 17-11-2007 by anhinga]

I believe Dan Burisch to be a hoax, My BS detector goes off the hilt when I see him in interviews. I woulndn't trust a word he says.

reply to post by kleverone


Any response to this document's legitimacy? Seems like it could be -- and he should be in jail for what he "confessed" to.

Originally posted by anhinga

No offense J Lear or to anyone else who listens to this guy, look at this document. Maybe, just maybe there's a chance it's true. Also, I noticed you updated your signature John, any response to your writing these:

1. All of my claims are only possibilities.
2. I could be completely misinformed.
3. All of what I believe might not be true.

Should you ignore the question, I'll take 'em at fact value... anyway, here's the document, click in it, move around w/ the arrow keys to read, it's classic. Fake? Maybe, the guy who titled it 'hoax' is his web server follower, and lately, I've really had it in for this guy and his crew:

Interesting document. It appears to be real to me.

Somebody is getting desperate here. Looks like the stuff they pulled on Billy Meiers which the majority of ATS fell all over themselves believing.

You know what I think? I think they want to keep this ET and UFO stuff a secret. Thats what I think.

Thanks for the post and thanks for brining this document to my attention.

reply to post by anhinga


My biggest qestion is which is the real spelling of his last name. Is Burisch or Burrasch?

Is this even the same person?

reply to post by johnlear


My pleasure John... this is, why isn't he in prison from the existence of such a document? Is he and we don't know? Have people written to "Senator" Reid about this?!

Like it matters, TO bring politics into this: how could Reid stoop as low as he currently is? He's a traitor. Check this link:

fredfryinternational.blogspot.com...

Back to Burisch, his 'Jrod' story is total nonsense when the drawing/CGI showed up all over the 'net, his "handler" turns out to be his second, Mormon wife, and the list goes on like I posted prior.... I used to take all the Project C interviews at face-value, but not anymore. This guy is trash and if this document is real -- he should be in prison, let alone death freaking row.

Watch some of those other 'interviews' -- some of those heads seem SO doped up on pharmaceuticals, it's not even funny... lastly, on B Lazar, John, are there any 'proof' documents from him? He also seems a little drugged out in dated interviews.

Originally posted by anhinga

Back to Burisch, his 'Jrod' story is total nonsense

Thanks for your opinion anhinga. I disagree. I think the j-rod story with his participation is true and accurate. And I could be totally wrong. Thats just what I belive.

I used to take all the Project C interviews at face-value, but not anymore. This guy is trash and if this document is real -- he should be in prison, let alone death freaking row.

Thanks for your opinion anhinga. I disagree.

Watch some of those other 'interviews' -- some of those heads seem SO doped up on pharmaceuticals, it's not even funny...

I can't tell that myself.

lastly, on B Lazar, John, are there any 'proof' documents from him?

No, no documents. All we have from Bob is the alleged Gravity A and Gravity B wave.

He also seems a little drugged out in dated interviews.

Bob Lazar drugged out? Heck, I'd even PAY to see that.

Thanks for the post and your opinions anhinga.