**UPDATED** Hi Rez*** Video: Chile Ufo, page 4

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 02:16 AM

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That video looked pretty genuine. He did all the right things as far as ufo vids are concerned: he got other stuff in the frame to get a reference point and he moved the camera around as the ufo was still in the shot, that would be hard to put a photoshooped ufo in a shot where the camera is being jerked like that. and also got other people in the shot. It looks weird, crazy how it was just zipping around the sky like that.

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Drexon

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 10:51 AM

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Great news everybody! /Dr. Farnsworth

I got a hold of the guy who filmed it and he's agreed to send me the original RAW footage on a DVD. It was filmed on a miniDV camera so we should expect a lot better quality once I get a hold of it.

Since human eyes are generally better than any video camera (not counting zoom) I'm gonna ask Him what he thought it looked like. If it was thin or thick and what kinda texture it looked to have and so forth. It's still my opinion that this is way too high to be a kite or even a stunt helicopter or such, they operate on very low altitudes, often under or around tree level.

And the final 'proof' that this isn't a kite is that the object doesn't move in a spherical fashion. If there's a supposed kite flyer, controlling the object with wires, then the object should move more in a bow fashion. I can illustrate if anyone still doesn't get it. I find this proof to be very compelling.

Starwatcher

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 11:02 AM

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Cool video, I don't think it is a kite, although I have never seen a stunt kite in action I have a hard time believing they can move up and down at those speeds. Also do stunt kites look like the typical ufo, this sure does. Who flies a kite in the city anyways?

As to the people's reaction, think about it, this object is clearly very high in the sky. Binoculars or a zoom feature with a camcorder is probably the only way to get a good look at it, would you be overreacting if you saw a small blip in the sky? I know I would'nt unless I could clearly see it,especially with a good bbq going on. This is either a very good hoax which I don't think it is or a UFO. I do not think it is a kite at all, its movements are to sporadic to be a kite on a string.

IronDogg

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by IronDogg
Cool video... There is another question I have about this video. Near the begining, there is another thing in the sky, and I was just wondering if it is a plane, or a bird, superman, or what is it? It is a little black dot that appears sometimes during the video near the vent on the house roof. It is a faint black spot to the right of the vent... any suggestions as to what it is? I am sure it is innocent enough, but it kept getting my attention, and I just wonder what it is too...

Thanks for your suggestions and opinions...

Has anyone noticed the other object in the sky yet, and figured an opinion on what it is?

Drexon

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 12:31 PM

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It's a smudge on the lens it seems. It moves With the camera after all.

disownedsky

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Vipassana
What follows is a video apparantly taken on new years day 2007 in Santiago, Chile. The video shows an object hovering in the sky and occasionally lighting up somehow. After a little while the object begins to move back and forth quite rapidly.

My initial thoughts are that this appears to be genuine. I wish I knew what they were saying, but I dont see any obvious indicators of a fake. Take note of the inconsistency in the timing of the light flashes. Also it appears as if the lighting is a result of the object glowing, not a traditional light like those seen on airplanes.

Sorry if this video has been posted before, this is my first post on ATS.

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I've seen this before, and I think it's a kite. When he zooms back, you can see that it's clearly tethered to some point well below the roof line, and it moves like a kite and is shaped like a kite.

anathema777

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by incunabula[/I]
Anathema Although you put a lot of hard work into your analysis of the vid, and I thank you for your efforts, Trust me, absolutely no offense intended but this is 100% genuine..I know the culture , and the people of that country and this is absolutely not staged, and if you'll notice, the so called Video analyses experts on this forum are stayin well away from this one, even though some smartass might come on and say they did so because it was so fake...blahblahblah...didn't want to waste my time on it...blahblahblah..kite...etc....if you want the gist of what was said on that vid just go back to the beginning of this thread and there's afew transalations for you..

Well said friend, and you are welcome. I by all means am not a skeptic on any level. I believe in UFOs and quite enjoy looking at the videos that are believed to be real. For me the jury is out on this one until more people give their opinions etc...

I still have a problem with the movement of the UFO between the 40 second and 20 second marks. I don't think it can be argued that it is making a right to left movement, moving up and down respectively. It also does appear to be moving in a circular fashion but Im not sure about that. The craft in question never strays further than a few feet above the house from our perspective that is. The photographer zooming in at the right time makes it look as if the craft is flying up and away but every time he pans back out you can see that it is still generally close to the houses roof. I would ask you to watch the way this object moves, turn off the sound and just take my last two posts points into consideration please.

I want for this to be real as much as you, but need to eliminate all possibilities of it being hoaxed so that we are left with nothing but clear proof.

I am kinda surprised more people haven’t came to the same conclusion, and the movements of the craft between the times of 40 sec, and 20 sec clearly illustrate what Im trying to say here. Basically it can't be disproved at this time that the object isn’t being manipulated by someone on the roof, behind the house, or at a higher point to the upper left of the house, and/or any combination of the above possibilities working together in tandem.

Originally posted by disownedsky
I've seen this before, and I think it's a kite. When he zooms back, you can see that it's clearly tethered to some point well below the roof line, and it moves like a kite and is shaped like a kite.

I totally agree with you on this one at the moment. The movement of the object in question along with the available points at which person/s could be concealed lead me to believe that this video is a hoax. I am still open to suggestion and others opinions but until I am convinced otherwise I believe this video has been busted.

Originally posted by D.Gribble
That video looked pretty genuine. He did all the right things as far as ufo vids are concerned: he got other stuff in the frame to get a reference point and he moved the camera around as the ufo was still in the shot, that would be hard to put a photoshooped ufo in a shot where the camera is being jerked like that. and also got other people in the shot. It looks weird, crazy how it was just zipping around the sky like that.

I don't think this video has been photoshopped. Also I think the family acted in accordance to the video if the son/brother were making a fake. Kinda just sitting there and going about their business and saying their little part at the right time. I think they would all be up on their feet checking that UFO out if it were really flying around right there and causing a small commotion. I know many would argue that they acted just as they would but I think they would have been more excited.

Looking forward to all your input.

~Anathema

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wildone106

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 04:00 PM
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You cant "photoshop" a video, sorry to say that people who are ignorant of what photoshop can do versus adobe premiere/after effects is obvious. Whatever it is its real

disownedsky

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by anathema777

Originally posted by disownedsky
I've seen this before, and I think it's a kite. When he zooms back, you can see that it's clearly tethered to some point well below the roof line, and it moves like a kite and is shaped like a kite.

I totally agree with you on this one at the moment. The movement of the object in question along with the available points at which person/s could be concealed lead me to believe that this video is a hoax. I am still open to suggestion and others opinions but until I am convinced otherwise I believe this video has been busted.

I don't think it's a hoax - just a willfull misinterpretation. The low angle of the sun makes for some interesting lighting effects, and the rest is just viral video.

D.Gribble

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 04:29 PM
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This video creeps me the hell out. So weird how it moves.

D.Gribble

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by wildone106
You cant "photoshop" a video, sorry to say that people who are ignorant of what photoshop can do versus adobe premiere/after effects is obvious. Whatever it is its real

I think what people mean by "photoshop" is that is altered with something. Like how some terms are universal, "bring me a coke", or "xerox this for me", or "grab me a kleenex." When people say "photoshop" they're just using the general term to get their point across.

thedigirati

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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I have a sneaking suspicion this is a Mylar (plastic) Kite, the person flying it would be under the sun from the perspective of the camera, I Don't think they are close top the house at all but maybe a few houses down, looking at the last 24 to 19 seconds of the video convinced me, I do not think this is a craft at all, but thats is just me, I hate to say it but kite does come to mind at the last 20 seconds when it turned dark your seeing the oblique angle of the kite. Also some of the erratic movement IS the cam itself, as you can see by the roof line moving in the last 24 seconds

Drexon

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 05:16 PM
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Anthema> I don't really see the points you are trying to make. You're claiming this thing is Close to the roof (physically), when the guy clearly has to adjust his zoom to long range to get a look at it? ...When the UFO clearly looks to be a Long way up in the sky? ...When the UFO doesn't seem to have any bow like movement? ...When the UFO covers a lot of ground 'up and down' (according to it) in no time at all, which is not consistent with releasing wire to further the distance?

You see where I'm going with this. Oh and one more thing. I talked to the person who took the footage (although biased If this is a hoax) and he saw no line/wire.

But yes, I see where you can see how it moves in a circular fashion, which brings thoughts to kites.

anathema777

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Drexon
Anthema> I don't really see the points you are trying to make. You're claiming this thing is Close to the roof (physically), when the guy clearly has to adjust his zoom to long range to get a look at it? ...When the UFO clearly looks to be a Long way up in the sky? ...When the UFO doesn't seem to have any bow like movement? ...When the UFO covers a lot of ground 'up and down' (according to it) in no time at all, which is not consistent with releasing wire to further the distance?

You see where I'm going with this. Oh and one more thing. I talked to the person who took the footage (although biased If this is a hoax) and he saw no line/wire.

But yes, I see where you can see how it moves in a circular fashion, which brings thoughts to kites.

The idea would be if the object is on a string and is only a few inches at best in size then zooming in on it would still leave the impression that the object is very far away as it wouldnt increase that much in size visually.

For me the fact that the object stays in one general area and we never get to see it fly away automatically leads me to believe that its a controlled video. If I were in the photographers shoes I would have filmed the UFO until it flew away. As usual we only get to see a small amount of footage which then limits the amount of evidence that can be used to debunk the video. Most likely he killed the shot right at a planned time when the object was about to be brought down or perhaps something occurred immedietly after the video as we know it ended that would show for sure that it is not real.

Then again this video could be very real, and genuine. I'm just playing the other side of the fence on this one because someone has to do it otherwise these things would go unquestioned as fact.

~Anathema

Drexon

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 06:03 PM
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Ah (at the fence thing). Well okay, I'll bite... some.

As people previously mentioned the people in the video appear as a perfectly normal family gathering for dinner. This does not point in the direction of hoax. Also from what I can tell the object is very high up in the sky, based on the focus and the smooth movement of the object, be it a kite or other. It just looks to be at a very fairly high altitude, and not something happening just behind the roof. Even if it was a kite you'd have to admit it'd have to be really high up.

I just looked at the video for an umteenth time and inbetween 0:13 and 0:15½ you can see how ridiculously high up in the sky it is to be a controlled kite. I admit though, that it Could be a kite, I'm just saying it's less probable when you watch the above stated seconds.

In my next post I'm gonna illustrate that bow movement I was talking about that just isn't there.

Vipassana

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 06:55 PM
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I am pleased with how my very first thread on ATS has gone! Very good insight and thoughts from everyone.

Is there a way to determine the distance of the object? Is it possible to identify the amount of zoom and therefore the distance?

Some professional video analysis could be extremely beneficial. That original video will help too. Personally i'm starting to lean towards the kite theory but I'm not totally convinced. I had no idea kites were so complex these days. Overall though I think it is absolutely worth it to have this video analyzed.

wildone106

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 07:00 PM
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The range of motion its exhibiting is way too far in the extremes to be a kite, and it seems awefully high up. Do a search for stunt kites videos and compare..it just does'nt add up.

thedigirati

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by wildone106
The range of motion its exhibiting is way too far in the extremes to be a kite, and it seems awefully high up. Do a search for stunt kites videos and compare..it just does'nt add up.

that may be true if you are looking straight at the kite but looking at the kite from the SIDE it will appear to be smaller say a kite that is 17 inches high at the side angle facing into the sun will appear smaller at 100 feet then say a 30 ft craft at 300 ft ( these are just guesitmates ) A classic shaped kite without a tail would move quite erratically (which is what this looks like) I'll try to draw it out if I can find a drawing prog on my PC

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Drexon

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by thedigiratithat may be true if you are looking straight at the kite but looking at the kite from the SIDE it will appear to be smaller

I think we can understand that if it Is a kite it's viewed from the side...

As for the thing, it was up there for 30 minutes according to him, he just got his camcorder because he eventually just wanted to shoot it, to have Some kinda proof. He also claims a member of his family is a pilot (not in the shot of the people eating) and even he couldn't figure out what it was.

anathema777

posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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Okay after goofing around in Photoshop Im half willing to say that this is a damn UFO, or at least there’s a good possibility in my mind now that it may be real.

It would seem that the camera is even picking up this things force field? As there is always a constant blur kinda light disruption around the object though this could be as a result of the camera zooming in or an artifact of the light being reflected back.

Other possibilities could be like a clear model plane perhaps as in a few frames there seems to be clear wings, but again this is way up to interpretation and could just be more video artifacts.

In doing this I have inadvertently convinced myself that there may be something here that is genuine and strange to say the least. If it is a fake under scrutiny it seems to be holding up.

I have provided an image of many screen shots I took and contrasted in different ways to see if I could shed some light on this.

Hope this helps as it took me about an hour and a half.

~Anathema