i'm a bad-boy...she digs my style, HELP

i am one to admit that i am 100% compatible with the cold gunman attitude corresponding to me more than possibly any1 on this board:shk:

(this does not include gvrnmnt agents...)

i dont smoke, dont drink, dont do anything unlawful... and yet, i come across to my class-mates as a bad guy, the startling truth is, i am in fact, bad.

literally EVIL, a bad mother#er, i look like i'm ready to pound the crap outta any1 & every1...plus, my characteristics, my low-bassed laugh, my entire physique scares the crap outta the toughest guys in school.

i think they think i'm a member of some underground society coz i wear a neo-like cape..they dont think i'm weird though...i'm 100% sure of that

I like this girl in school, her dad owns shares in a porn magazine...so u can imagine how she looks

i've never kissed a girl before, as a matter of fact, i've never gone out on a date..even though when i first joined my school, i-kept-on-getting-the-hints

i just realized i still get them, i know the lusting in them ukranian girls is still there

here's the catch, if i lighten up...i'll lose all "face" (respect), all that hard earnt "dont mess with me" clint-eastwood image i currently have.
not an option i'm afraid...got to stick with it, i won't play fake.

so what do i do?
a detailed scenario would be super-helpful, one that i could possibly fit into my daily routine, advice is good..but it doesn't fulfill the "insight" needed for the matter at hand.

i'm no wuss...i will do this, question is how?

i posted this on prophet-mike's topic..i for one, am willing to tell you how it goes, and am going to take the risk soon, since x-mas is at our doorsteps i have till the 19th

will probably end up sharing a good laugh around...or end up with the best scenario for future reference

i just need some details as to what to do, for i am sincerely clueless on the matter:shk:
Cordially
Cyrus

[Edited on 9-12-2003 by Cyrus]

What age are we talking here? It's a pretty important factor...high school, college, etc.?

We now know about you, but what about her? Does she know you well? What kind of impressions do you think she has of you? What signs has she given you that she may be interested? What's her personality like?

Sorry for the questions, but if you want some sincere advice, the answers would probably be helpful to all answering...

Thanks

Originally posted by Gazrok
What age are we talking here? It's a pretty important factor...high school, college, etc.?

We now know about you, but what about her? Does she know you well? What kind of impressions do you think she has of you? What signs has she given you that she may be interested? What's her personality like?

Sorry for the questions, but if you want some sincere advice, the answers would probably be helpful to all answering...

Thanks

thank you gazrok, for taking my plea seriously.

1: she doesn't know me, but she knows i exist?
2:i know she thinks of me as a tough, secretive, athletic, evil, turn-on.
3:whenever i talk, the room goes quiet...(see what i mean..when i say scared??) but she tends to look up at me in admiration.
4:her personality? proud, she knows she's the best girl out there in the school...making things better for me, since i portray that same attitude of superiority.

i'm in grade 12, got 1 more year to go if i wanna go to britain, or, i can graduate this year and go to a ukranian UNI..i'm 16.

not a problem gazrok, on the contrary, i approve.
Cyrus

on a more diversive note: i dont actually think i'm on top of the world, i just send that message out due to my walk, my talk, and my calm behaviour...let me put it this way, i rarely smile, i'm the silent type, and look like i wouldn't think twice about beating the living crap out of any1 uttering anything at my expense..but again, that's just a defense mechanism, people never say things behind my back, or to my face for that matter, i cannot enlist a single joke about me...even though our school is reknowned for mocking anything blessed with a name
i'm not full of myself, lol, i swear!! i'm trying to make as clear a statement as i can.
just being honest and reflecting other people's oppinions

[Edited on 8-12-2003 by Cyrus]

Because of #4. I'm guessing that she's noticing your confidence, and that's a turn on for the alpha chick...

So, if you're going to make a move, you'll have to muster up all the confidence you can, and ask if she'd like to catch a movie, get some dinner, you know the usual. The other thing to consider, is if she does turn you down, act like it's no big deal, and just be persistent. (but not stalker-like).

Hard to tell without knowing much about her, whether she'd go for a conceited approach by you, or just sincere confidence. When in doubt, I'd go just for the confidence. Act like you already know her answer will be yes...and maybe it will be.

You've really got to be confident though...or she'll sniff it out like a dog sniffs out fear....

PS-Don't mention anything about your inexperience... No need to lie and try to sound like the love machine...but you can steer it back on her if you need to. When the time comes, you'll figure out what you need to do, and how far to go...(though the alpha chicks tend to go further than most, hehe...)

PS-This should be in Relationships forum...

[Edited on 8-12-2003 by Gazrok]

Originally posted by Gazrok
Because of #4. I'm guessing that she's noticing your confidence, and that's a turn on for the alpha chick...

So, if you're going to make a move, you'll have to muster up all the confidence you can, and ask if she'd like to catch a movie, get some dinner, you know the usual. The other thing to consider, is if she does turn you down, act like it's no big deal, and just be persistent. (but not stalker-like).

Hard to tell without knowing much about her, whether she'd go for a conceited approach by you, or just sincere confidence. When in doubt, I'd go just for the confidence. Act like you already know her answer will be yes...and maybe it will be.

You've really got to be confident though...or she'll sniff it out like a dog sniffs out fear....

PS-Don't mention anything about your inexperience... No need to lie and try to sound like the love machine...but you can steer it back on her if you need to. When the time comes, you'll figure out what you need to do, and how far to go...(though the alpha chicks tend to go further than most, hehe...)

good, so i have a chance...
gazrok, can u go in detail? like...real detail, subjects, jokes related to those subjects, a fool-proof backup plan? just in case:shk:
this might sound insane,
she sees me as the entrancing tough guy? what if i comment on her eye color, come up close, end up looking into her eyes...and steal a kiss?
dont hate me for asking this, like i said...i'm seriously lacking on this matter, but at least i'm implying the detailed narration needed for this scenario to work out
let me put it this way, if you were me....what would you do? how would you go about it?

Originally posted by Gazrok
Because of #4. I'm guessing that she's noticing your confidence, and that's a turn on for the alpha chick...

So, if you're going to make a move, you'll have to muster up all the confidence you can, and ask if she'd like to catch a movie, get some dinner, you know the usual. The other thing to consider, is if she does turn you down, act like it's no big deal, and just be persistent. (but not stalker-like).

Hard to tell without knowing much about her, whether she'd go for a conceited approach by you, or just sincere confidence. When in doubt, I'd go just for the confidence. Act like you already know her answer will be yes...and maybe it will be.

You've really got to be confident though...or she'll sniff it out like a dog sniffs out fear....

PS-Don't mention anything about your inexperience... No need to lie and try to sound like the love machine...but you can steer it back on her if you need to. When the time comes, you'll figure out what you need to do, and how far to go...(though the alpha chicks tend to go further than most, hehe...)

PS-This should be in Relationships forum...

[Edited on 8-12-2003 by Gazrok]

i am enlisted as one of three potential alpha males, the other two are too immature, which leaves me.
i kinda wish i didn't mention her dad's "job", but, at least i'm being honest about it, i think she's worth it...being the perfect alpha male for this hotttttt alpha chick.
google brianna banks, no, that's not her, but possibly the closest look-alike i've seen so far to her

Hmm...hard to go into detail without knowing a lot about her...

But, generally speaking...she sounds like the type where you'd need to leave the compliments at saying she looks hot, etc. Save the mushy stuff for when you've really known her longer... She probably wants a public tough guy, with a little bit of teddy bear when you're alone...

Nothing's fool-proof with women my friend, hehe...

Just don't try to be something you're not (besides the confidence with women factor), because you want her to fall for you....not for some character you try to be...(not to mention, if you're frontin', eventually it will all unravel...)

When it's the right moment though, you'll definitely have to make the first moves...and the first approach. (But if I'm figuring her correctly, she'll reciprocate quickly enough)...

There's no formula, no magic method I know of... Just general advice my friend...

Originally posted by Gazrok
Hmm...hard to go into detail without knowing a lot about her...

But, generally speaking...she sounds like the type where you'd need to leave the compliments at saying she looks hot, etc. Save the mushy stuff for when you've really known her longer... She probably wants a public tough guy, with a little bit of teddy bear when you're alone...

Nothing's fool-proof with women my friend, hehe...

Just don't try to be something you're not (besides the confidence with women factor), because you want her to fall for you....not for some character you try to be...(not to mention, if you're frontin', eventually it will all unravel...)

When it's the right moment though, you'll definitely have to make the first moves...and the first approach. (But if I'm figuring her correctly, she'll reciprocate quickly enough)...

There's no formula, no magic method I know of... Just general advice my friend...

*sigh*
i was afraid of that.. questions:
do i go along with the "do u wear contact lenses coz ur eyes look different/ steal a kiss & c what she doz" method.

or

play it smooth, ignore her like i've always done...ignore any other female, and end up feeling sorry for myself coz i know i need a woman?
gazrok, we all come to a time in life...where desperation proves too wild to handle, this time...last year, i was engaged in learning how to box, i was engaged in exploring the vast pockets of information the internet holds on "cracking", (just a hobbyist), i didn't really care back then.
as for now?? it's different...me stomach-pit starts fluttering everytime i think of the actual fact that i havent gotten around to getting laid, or getting a g/f for that matter
all my life, i've aimed at being the perfect guy, and all that is for...? when you're 16 you have the looks, most of the wisdom, and a lotta adrenaline, hormones are said to be bouncing all over the place.

i dont hang around with her..at all.
i barely see her, my group consists of a bunch of ukranians to whom i barely relate to, but who accept me for who i am, no questions asked.(i-am-russian in fact).

it proves ever so annoying to have to see this girl give me the looks every single time i say something in her presence, it's proving harder to ignore her nowadays, she's getting "cocky" with me

is that a sign??
*stares at blank wall foreseeing an awaited execution*
damnit, i dont wanna rant on like prophetmike did, leading every1 pouring their advice out from the heart...let's face it, i dont wanna enjoy the attention, this kinda thing definitely doesn't help "my keeping a low profile"
i wanna get on with this girl...but i still need some preciseness involved in this.
i may as well point out that your posts have clarified things, thx, i dont have to build up some courage to do this, if i go up to her, and french kiss her out of the blue..what would that result in, nuclear warfare?
what would the outcome be....any ideas?
ps: for any1 female reading this, your contribution proves priceless in this case.
thank you.


[Edited on 8-12-2003 by Cyrus]

i have a week and a bit to get my act sorted before the x-mas hols start up in full...i'm still looking at this girl and wanna get with her, any1 have some scenarios they'd be willing to share, ie: experience..funny things to say that will definitely get the girl round.
*sighs* i really need this, and would appreciate if some members would help out..you've all been there, i havent, and am feeling like # right now coz i dont wanna spend this x-mas alone:shk:
this is depressing

[Edited on 12-12-2003 by Cyrus]

Why don't u just talk to her? It's really no big deal. I know you have a rep, but I don't see how talking to her will destroy it. I don't suggest you go in with hormones a blazing. Maybe try a friendly approach...a hey, how ya doin? type of deal. You are going to have to come out of your shell sooner or later and it may as well be with the girl you think you like--cause to be honest if you've never talked to her how do you know you like her...oh, she's hot, and so.

She seems to be interested in you...from what you say...maybe bring up some class work to break the ice. My bet is she'll be all in since you walk around like the mysterious type--we girls love getting inside thick walls. Some us tend to bang our heads against those walls constantly...(i aint sayin no names--okay ME!!!):bnghd:

Go for it. Find ya balls and introduce yourself.

Do this the next time you see her...I expect a report of your progress on my desk (top) no later than Monday afternoon. CHAL-LENGE!!

Originally posted by Saphronia
Why don't u just talk to her? It's really no big deal. I know you have a rep, but I don't see how talking to her will destroy it. I don't suggest you go in with hormones a blazing. Maybe try a friendly approach...a hey, how ya doin? type of deal. You are going to have to come out of your shell sooner or later and it may as well be with the girl you think you like--cause to be honest if you've never talked to her how do you know you like her...oh, she's hot, and so.

She seems to be interested in you...from what you say...maybe bring up some class work to break the ice. My bet is she'll be all in since you walk around like the mysterious type--we girls love getting inside thick walls. Some us tend to bang our heads against those walls constantly...(i aint sayin no names--okay ME!!!):bnghd:

Go for it. Find ya balls and introduce yourself.

Do this the next time you see her...I expect a report of your progress on my desk (top) no later than Monday afternoon. CHAL-LENGE!!

thank you o' first female one to answer this thread, hope more women turn their head when seeing this distraught youngster...bless him
put my balls together and quit clucking? ok..i will, i just see failiure coming my way.
mental notes:
1: say hi in a nice way, ask her questions about herself, ask her what it was like being a model, ask her what she wants to be when she grows up?(my god..she'll so see thru that!!)
2: fill mind up with useless but interesting facts to tell her while in the mood, ie: from the useless but interesting thread here on ats

i have a feeling i'll crash and burn, but ok, reporting in when mission's complete...i promise
Cyrus

[Edited on 13-12-2003 by Cyrus]

Make sure you smell good...not too much cologne just enough that when you are close to her she gets a whiff of it. Make sure you approach her with confidence. Don't stutter. Don't look at the floor. Smile and compliment her in a polite way. It doesn't have to be about her features. It could be the shirt she's wearing or the shoes (another good icebreaker).

Dont' drop no heavy ATS stuff on her right away. You don't want to scare her off. She'll have plenty of time to see your big brain.

Failure is not an option. I await you report Agent C.

u want some advice

Just be urself...be funny, caring, dont try and be macho...but most of all...respect her personality.

Woman want a man who can be open and honest, who can make them laugh and who gives them a warm funny feeling inside.

Dont try so hard...just go with the flow!

All my wishes
Gryff

Originally posted by Saphronia
Make sure you smell good...not too much cologne just enough that when you are close to her she gets a whiff of it.

hugo boss...the blue one, definitely the blue one

Make sure you approach her with confidence.

how much?

Don't stutter.
Don't look at the floor.
good stuff...good point

Smile and compliment her in a polite way. It doesn't have to be about her features. It could be the shirt she's wearing or the shoes (another good icebreaker).
omg...i've complemented women for their shoes regardless if i liked them or not, lucky she doesnt know that yet

Dont' drop no heavy ATS stuff on her right away. You don't want to scare her off. She'll have plenty of time to see your big brain.
hehe, i got a good one

what's the color of your fridge? then what do cows drink? *smiles evily*
ok, so i play cool...i dont drop ANYTHING from ATS(like really now...how much of all this stuff counts as your average small-talk??)

Failure is not an option. I await you report Agent C.
*sigh* this isn't gana b e-z.

[Edited on 13-12-2003 by Cyrus]

Originally posted by Gryffen
u want some advice

Just be urself...be funny, caring, dont try and be macho...but most of all...respect her personality.

Woman want a man who can be open and honest, who can make them laugh and who gives them a warm funny feeling inside.

Dont try so hard...just go with the flow!

All my wishes
Gryff

but that's the thing...i cant help but be a macho, sure i'll be caring, comforting etc.. but i won't be funny
at least i'm not likely to be funny(trust me....not a funny guy!!
make her laugh? or fascinate her...
luckily i have the latter option available, most men don't.
fascinating her is something likely to be over soon, i can only save the world "that many times"
*shakes his head in disbelief* needless to say i'm very likely to be faced with ridicule if i try and be funny.
*takes a deep bow & lets cape sweep majestically*
what would you do in the girl's place gryff? what would you expect of a macho-guy..

Cyrus

Just be urself...

I work with macho guys and most of them watch old soppy films with me to help chill themselves out!

Just have a good day, ask her what she wants to do and go do it!

I'd rather have someone who asked me what i wanted to do instead of making a split descision!

To ATS contributors, i thank you,

for coaxing my out into reality,

for motivating me with enough courage,

but mostly for giving some of the best kick-ass advice out there

*sigh*
note: i'm adding as many smilies as i can...i feel i am obliged to convey the message in correct form, call it corny

things have pretty much ranked borderline chaos before the holidays, our realm conveyed "bedlam" as the sole benefitiary from our chaos-beriddled habitat.

what with people falling over ice and breaking limbs, students snowballing a teacher into a stupor.. another teacher coming to his aid and getting frostbite

my, my...i'd carry on, but that alone^^ should give u SOME idea of what it was like those last few days..

so anyways, classes, weren't compulsory at the time...so i spent most of my time watching TV in the lounge, things were going smooth, no1 bothering me..me bothering no1, and there she walks in??
*gasp* we're alone in the tiny lounge??

so she eventually starts a conv.
and sits on a chair facing me exposing more of her legs than the miniskirt she was wearing was meant to..*conveying a vision proves hard at this point...since, *wince* these are, only words*

me sprawled on the couch and looking like i didn't care proved really hard after a while, however...since she did start the conv. i wasn't going to ignore so things started to unravel, her not having a mother? me commenting on that sounding like "you're a test-tube baby" made her laugh? males will never understand women


smalltalk? how does "none needed" knit itself into that perspective, or does "sticking to each other due to the rest of our pack leaving school early" work out in such a perspective?

so we hung out for over 4 hours, laughed our guts out...made fun of a teacher, then shared detention

till home do us part, at the metro we traded phone numbers.

i know it's us guys that are supposed to be running after them girls..but really now WTF was she thinking hanging with me? males will never understand women

she calls me up in the evening, and we talk for over an hour(till her mom yelling "phonebill!!" do us part)

i call up the next day and ask what she's doing on the 23rd, since she's sick i decide to stay away (i'm a germophobe? whateverrr)

she gets caught up in me some more, or is that my delusion?
as she realizes how much info i had on "weird/useless but funny facts" courtesy ATS? and courtesy MA & THENEO for some witty comments (thx for being ummm, U?...if u happen to read this)

TWENTY FIFTH!! we decided to meet previously, i'm walking outta the shower and the phone rings? guess who's reminding me

she's well now...*sigh* yeah right, but that's sweet of her so i decide to go.

we meet? do i agree? do i move house b4 she finds out where i live, one has no choice but to obey.

so dismally, i leave the family in shock as i depart off to the mall to meet >>her

ok wait...

you say your a BAMF... but you wear a cape?


For such a hardcore person such as yourself, why fear anything?

Man if you are physically superior to the other males... then why even give a funk what they think or say?

I'd rather be getting some booty than none at all.

If someone wants to battle you because you wanna get some action just stomp the ever living # out of them.

Originally posted by Lysergic
ok wait...

you say your a BAMF... but you wear a cape?

cape? trenchcoat?..percieved as a BAMF due to appearances/height/shoulder width..not an oaf though, evil is normally stupid, i think that MAY be a reason why i am feared

For such a hardcore person such as yourself, why fear anything?
you are some1 short..i expect

Man if you are physically superior to the other males... then why even give a funk what they think or say?
because, they could team up and destroy my reputation..even AFTER my knuckles accelerate at their faces
I'd rather be getting some booty than none at all.

If someone wants to battle you because you wanna get some action just stomp the ever living # out of them.

i dont wanna get ganged up on... and in turn, get the # beaten out of

it's a joke you see, this friendship..they are an inferior race, ukranian, it's like arabs and kurds:shk:

is that my oppinion?no, do they think it is? yes..can i change their oppinions of trying to prove their equality?NO.

and therefore, since i AM physically capable of pounding the # out of the first person to come at me with rude comments..i would rather crush them with my wits(to most russians that has never been an option).

yes, good advice though!! i know i could do so...but it would REALLY provoke some action on their part, and possibly make me a figure of HATE in school, note: i am not hated, just feared.

[Edited on 28-12-2003 by Cyrus]

ahhh... I thought you were wearing some type of homoerotic fantasy cloak...

I am 5'9 so yeah I am short but I'm ready to scuffle like Bruce Lee if someone wants to test me I'm ready.

Didn't realise it was some sort of racist thing in Ukraine...

as I am American and generally accepting of all people.

do what you gotta do to get with this girl if you feel so strongly about her thats the best advice.

If you truly wish to be with her, then make it happen.

Like I said before # those other guys man, let them be the jealous bitches they are.