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N.W.O And The Ballad Of The U.S.S.R

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posted on Dec, 26 2006 @ 02:08 AM
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I Just got a thought a while ago,

What if the Illumanati Higher up's had infact started the Russian Revolution? What if they knew of the long term effect's of Karl Marx's Ideoolgy and as a test too see how The harsh Dictatorship would have been like helped spark and construct Soviet Russia?

Almost like a filed test for the New World Order? It sound's a little far fetched but hey, an idea's and idea.

Could it be possible, that is If The ever so famous Illumanati are as sleek it and powerfull the claim's state.




posted on Dec, 26 2006 @ 01:13 PM
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Here's the problem, marx saw communism as a way for industrialized societies to advance to the 'next stage'. He was a German, who wrote it in England, and intended it for places like France. The revolution took root in Russia and China, which were relatively backwards agricultural societies.

I don't see how anyone can have predicted that and pre-determined it. If they could, then it'd be their 'big plan', not a small scale 'field test' of their big plan.

Apparently, when HG Wells published his book "The New World Order", which was a book advocating such a thing, he envisioned it as a global socialist government. So I don't think we need to reference the Illuminati, an organization that was destroyed by the State and Church over a hundred years ago, to find the 'motivators' for the New World Order. They've been open and explicit about it.



posted on Dec, 26 2006 @ 10:21 PM
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There's a School of Thought, that suggests Marx himself was not "For the Workers" but rather for the "Upper Class". If you read Marx and Engels works, much of it is rather complex - it itself would be very hard for poor people to understand, especially back then.

These groups suggest that he gives two options:
Give a few "Social Policies", such as Free Health care or a State Pension to stop the Revolution. If the Revolution happens, create an enviroment where "Your" in charge still and not the people so you can keep power. It's an interesting idea, but the person who suggested its name escapes me off of the top of head.



posted on Dec, 28 2006 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
There's a School of Thought, that suggests Marx himself was not "For the Workers" but rather for the "Upper Class". If you read Marx and Engels works, much of it is rather complex - it itself would be very hard for poor people to understand, especially back then.


Marx's writings were for the Communist Party members, who generally were middle class intellectuals. He did not expect the average worker to understand his boks, but also did not think it was necessary; Marx believed the revolution would come about as the natural end result of the collapse of capitalism, not through the influence of his books.



posted on Dec, 28 2006 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Here's the problem, marx saw communism as a way for industrialized societies to advance to the 'next stage'. He was a German, who wrote it in England, and intended it for places like France. The revolution took root in Russia and China, which were relatively backwards agricultural societies.

I don't see how anyone can have predicted that and pre-determined it. If they could, then it'd be their 'big plan', not a small scale 'field test' of their big plan.


I agree 100%. What is sometimes forgotten is that the Bolsheviks did not start the revolution; they were just able to utilize it to their advantage by being at the right place at the right time. Trotsky wrote that 'The Revolution came and found us asleep, just like the foolish virgins in the gospels". The Revolution was a spontaneous uprising by the workers in Petrograd, and surprised the Communists as much as the Czarists.

[edit on 28-12-2006 by Masonic Light]



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