So they basicly built this thing to do two things...

1. Debunk UFO sightings.

2. Try and make a UFO.

So the question is this. If UFOs don't exist, therefore something that does not exist cannot look like a disk, why go through the expense of creating something that looks like a disk to disprove something that does not exist in the first place?

Originally posted by whatukno
So they basicly built this thing to do two things...

Well the newspapers of the day had rumours that Canada and the US were working on Nazi tech and making saucers. All that fuss about Mt Rainier and Roswell...I still have some of the old newspaper clippings. I should see if I can find the archives online. I don't know if I can scan and post.. they should be public domain by now I will check.

UFO's is the wrong term in my opinion... we know what they are... Flying Discs some believe the Germans had them and we continued the program.

BTW Thanks JRA I did not have that one... nice stuff in there

I quote...

In April of 1950, the Right Hon Brooke Claxton, then Canadian minister of national defense, requested that the Joint Intelligence Council investigate the matter of flying saucers in earnest. A committee was to be established comprised of representatives from the Directorate of Air Intelligence, Naval Intelligence, Military Intelligence and Scientific Intelligence, with the Defence Research Board (DRB) acting as chair. Liaison was to be established with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Were flying saucers prototype weapons or extraterrestrial in origin? In a report sent to the Canadian DRB in 1953, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) noted that German engineers had filed patents for flying-saucer-like craft they had supposedly developed towards the end of the war.

The CIA had interrogated a number of former German soldiers who claimed of having worked on saucer-like aircraft. As it turned out, members of the RCAF and National Research Council (NRC) had also interrogated some of these German engineers about this strange work.

In 1959, a book entitled, "German Secret Weapons of the Second World War," claimed the Foo Fighters were the product of Hitler's war machine. One individual who believed the Nazis had developed such, devices was aeronautical engineer John C. Frost of A.V. Roe Canada Limited. Avro, as the company came to be called, had succeeded in designing, building and flying the Jetliner, the first commercial, inter-city jet transport to fly in North America, back in 1949. Frost himself had been brought in from the U.K. to work on the CF-100 and now, the company was embarking on its most ambitious project, the CF-105 Arrow. A flying saucer seemed a natural progression for such an advanced high technology aeronautical firm.

I have been collecting stuff for years regarding the German and flying disk technology and the Antarctica connection. Not ready to post yet but you can always u2u me for details.

It's a sensitive subject though... anytime you need to use the N word

[edit on 22-12-2006 by zorgon]

There is a major fault with that last quote (even though it was a long time ago). The Avro flying saucer programme dates from BEFORE the Arrow, not after it, so how can the saucer have been seen as a 'progression' from the CF-105?

Anyhow here are a couple of titbits from this project people might find interesting;

The saucer in question was NOT the Avrocar, that was a different project entirely, this one was for a supersonic interceptor saucer and went by several names, Project Y, Avro Ace, Y2, Silver Bug and MX1794 amongst others. Niether was it entirely Canadian. There was strong influence from the parent Avro company in Manchester and there was intense interest by the RAF and RAE and was only with the agreemejnt and recommendation from such as Sir Roy Dobson etc that the US eventually was granted a full partnership. This was at a time of course when the project needed money and we all know who had plenty of that. This did lead to the US virtually taking control of Avro Canada's SPG, but again, this was before the Arrow was axed, not after it.

Here is an early drawing of the Project Y clearly showing the vents for the Radial Flow Gas Turbine that was to power it. At this stage it is not circular, but more spade like. The RFGT engine was actually structurally integrated into the airframe.



A bit later in its development here are some images of the Mock up in the factory. This was not just a basic mock up but was actually used for engine integration trials





When Frost decided to redesign this vehicle into a round saucer shape it was decided that the whole thing might as well be axed, especially as the engine was part of the airframe and redundancy in case of faults or replacements were never going to be an option.

It was at this point that the US came on board and frost also abandoned the RFGT altogether and redesigned the, now Y2 or Silverbug, to use conventional jet engines, arranged radially breathing from a central intake and venting through the vanes. These could be accomodated in self contained units that could be removed for mainenance or replaced completely, as shown in this diagram



With the new impetus this brought the programme continuied to flourish and this is an impression of a Silverbug carrying out a 'slash attack' on a Tu 95, a tactic proposed by Frost himself who insisted no harm would come to the saucer or its pilot. Well, thats all right then



This project evolved into the MX 1794 (a purely US designation for what was basically the same concept) and this fake (repeat FAKE) photo shows how it might have looked on test.



I hope you found this post informative.

[edit on 16-1-2008 by waynos]

i remember seeing that on digg a while back doesnt it use a sort of tornado to lift itself