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Voting computers can play chess!
In order to accommodate each citizens' right (or better duty) to vote, many countries have adopted electronic voting machines to make such operations faster and easily accomplished, not mentioning the much faster vote computations. But, as many other new technologies the voting machines are facing pangs of childbirth. Zone-H has reported several times in the past about the effective (in) security of this technology and nowadays they are facing similar problems in Germany, Netherland, France and other countries using the Nedap ES3B voting machine.
The German Computer Chaos Club, Europe's largest hacker group, has called for a ban on the Nedap ES3B voting machine and similar computers after a Dutch citizens group found flaws in the dated e-voting machine. The computer is used in elections in the Netherlands, Germany and France, and marketed in the United States by Liberty Election Systems as the LibertyVote.
Originally posted by osram
Aw well no one seems to care apparently...
...The janitor opened the doors to the localities, so that the CCC team was by the computers even before the first official voting-supervisors appeared. ...
Originally posted by osram
Yeah this is certainly true but i also think it is only partly correct: Because if the machines are seriously made with an opensource solution, decently secured software and physically hardly bypassable hardware.. we have eliminated a major part of vulnerability.
As a machine can also be designed to being secure in itself.. and leaving only very few possibilities for manipulation.. even for the vote-supervisors!
You can always argue because also the programmers of the framework could be corrupted or forced to manipulate and so on..
It does not surprise me because what does everyone expect? Asking the Mainstream media from a totally subordonate position would change anything? "Please Mr. CNN we discovered the conspiracy.. see? Could you please make a News Report now?? Please Please Please...".
For instance; The official local election responsable in Cottbus did not even know that the citizens actually had the right to publicly take a look at the electronic voting system and procedures.. just as with any regular paper-voting system.. when the CCC asked the officials about the locations of the voting-localities for instance. Also the insecure procedure of leaving the machines unobserved @ the localities over night was quite a surprise for the local Citizens in Cottbus.
Don't you want to CHANGE something FFS? Or do you simply go on with the self-entertaining conspiracy-programme on ATS? Even ATS could elaborate professional News Reports and Research in collaboration with independent, public radio broadcasts for reaching a wider spectrum of listeners.
C'mon guys. Challenge the Patriot Act! Let's see if the public can still be connected to an independent source of information. I am sure it is possible. Because if ATS's only goal is the above-stated self-entertainment programme in conspiracies, UFOS and whatsoever.. then I am sure it can be called disinformation and distraction.
Originally posted by LoganCale
I don't think there can be a secure EVM system, unfortunately, unless the machine is purely a device to quickly fill out a paper ballot, which is then printed—along with a receipt confirming the vote, for the voter to keep—and placed by the voter into a locked box. However, paper ballots are still counted by machine. The receipts could, in theory be used for a recount, but some people would inevitably lose them.
To be fair, Lou Dobbs of CNN has spent a fair amount of time exposing a number of the flaws with electronic voting. If I recall correctly, he had, live on his show, a demonstration of an untraceable EVM hack carried out in two minutes. The reason they shunned this one is that at the time, they didn't know this was used in the US as well, and they felt it wasn't newsworthy, apparently. I feel that it should be reported on, no matter where in the world it is, as, even if it isn't used here, it still exposes the problems with electronic voting.
BlackBoxVoting does similar things, and goes to the individual precincts, demanding to be shown the public records for various elections. They then find the flaws and post the findings to their website. The problem is, they aren't very well known. They're doing the right thing, they just don't get the attention of the public. For many people, if it's not on the mainstream news, they don't pay attention to it.
(Oh, and the USA PATRIOT Act isn't the worst of the problems these days. The Military Commissions Act is even worse. Hurray for legalization of indefinite detention! )