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reply posted on 13-11-2003 @ 11:58 AM by infinite
well the ring has the masonic symbol on it so its a big clue



reply posted on 14-11-2003 @ 08:00 AM by EastCoastKid
Many Christians have departed the Masonic ranks after becoming saved. The problem, as they see it, has to do with the secret oath Masons take. It an issue of idolitry. Whom do you serve first? Does your Masonic oath take presidence over putting God first? Do the Masons promote God as the head of the church and humanity? (I've read that it is actually Satanism that lies at the heart of the Masonic order.) One of my grandfathers (not the one I have mentioned) was a total man of God. He raised his family in the Lord and was a Deacon in our church. And yet, a high-ranking Mason. I've often wondered how he squared that. But then again, if there is any tom-foolery going on within the membership, I am sure it is only at the very highest levels (top 2%, for example). That excludes even the 33rd degree, I believe.

The problem, as I see it, isn't so much eeevil devil worshipping, but in the way the network works. It is a brotherhood, just like the military or a fraternity and its members are hard-wired into an immense network. It works like this, Joe Mason, a prominent lawyer gets arrested for beating up his mistress. His brother Mason, who is the judge finds out Joe Mason is a Mason.. the judge figures out a way, some technicality to let Joe Mason off so that his wife never finds out and his law practice remains un-harmed. It's like that with fellow veterans of war. I know this because it has gotten me out of trouble, too. The order is more a leg up, a brotherhood of men who look out for one another and their families.

I know a girl who said she had flat tire one day on the freeway. A truck immediately pulled over and the man jumped out and said, "Miss, can I change that tire for you?" She smiled at him and said, "Wow, that's nice of you." He then smiled back at her and said, "Miss, I saw the Mason symbol on the back of your car. I'd be in trouble if I didn't stop and help you." She said she was floored. Her father had been a Mason all her life and she had never once thought about it. Until that moment. She was quite impressed.



reply posted on 14-11-2003 @ 01:48 PM by Helioform
The thirty third degree is not Satanic, it is Luciferian (according to Albert Pike anyway). The thing is that most christians think that Lucifer equals Satan, but that's not quite the case:

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Lucifer is derived from the latin term lucem ferre, which means "bringer, or bearer, of light." In Roman mythology, Lucifer was a deity equivalent to the Greek Phosporus, and the planet Venus was known by the name Lucifer in Roman astrology before being given its current name. In Christianity, Lucifer has become synonymous with Satan or the Devil, despite the original Judaic mythology considering Lucifer and Satan to be two quite separate entities.

Lucifer is mentioned in only one place in the Bible (Isaiah 14:12), in translations based on the Latin translation largely made by St. Jerome in the fourth century. The Hebraic texts refer to Heylel Ben-Shachar, where 'Heylel' is the Hebrew word for the planet Venus, and Ben-shachar means "son of the dawn." Isaiah 14 starts out discussing the King of Babylon, and the reference "morning star, son of the dawn" originally meant specifically that king. Then St. Jerome translated Heylel into Lucifer. Much of Christian tradition also draws on Revelation 12:5 ("He was thrown down, that ancient serpent") in equating Lucifer, Satan, and the serpent in the Garden of Eden.

Lucifer is a key protagonist in John Milton's Protestant Christian epic, Paradise Lost. Milton presents Lucifer almost sympathetically, an ambitious and prideful angel who defies God and wages war on heaven, only to be defeated and cast down. Lucifer must then employ his rhetorical ability to organize hell; he is aided by Mammon and Beelzebub. Later, Lucifer enters the Garden of Eden, where he successfully tempts Eve, wife of Adam, to eat fruit from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Lucifer is a deity in the Voodoo religions.
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Lucifer is the bearer of light archetype; Mithras and even Jesus (the morning star). So unless you consider the Romans and Persians to have been satan worshippers, I doubt you could consider masons that way.
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