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posted by TrueAmerican
China warned Washington if the Straits of Hormuz got shut down either by Iran or the US, they would intercede. most likely this is due to the flow of oil into China which a percentage comes through the Persian Gulf, China may choose to fight by proxy, and supply Iran with more sophisticated missiles.
[Edited by Don W]
Another possibility would be [US] strikes on North Korea, but at this point, I don't see that happening . . the limited nuclear capability that NK has . . attacking them would be extremely risky - not so much for the US, but for the surrounding countries like SK, or even Japan.
Taiwan would be an issue, but that's not the only other instance that might incite a US - China conflict.
China's ever increasing presence in South America . . it's not hard to imagine Chavez doing something really stupid and then China becoming involved in the resulting chaos . . “
China is a communist country, and they know at the core, non-communist countries stand diametrically opposed on many many issues such as human rights, free speech, etc. recently a Chinese general proclaimed that "one inch of land is worth thousands of lives to us," or something close to that effect.
There are many ways a war could happen with China, this talk about the US being China's number one customer being a show stopper only goes so far . . If push came to shove, it could happen, and ultimately, probably will as China's population and energy needs push them beyond the limits of their borders.
Originally posted by donwhite
It fascinates - and alarms - me how causally we speak of attacking first this county - Iran - then that country - NK - and engaging in a war with China. Is there any other place in the world where this kind of (serious) kind of conversation is carried on?
If you’re not Sam Walton Jr why do you give a dam what goes on in China?
And sure to God NK poses no threat to the US...
...So why do you say Chavez will do “something really stupid?” historically speaking, is it not far more likely the CIA will do “something really stupid?”
A. We are very selective about whose rights we will fight say die for. Not in Darfur, not in South Lebanon, not in Gaza. How about Granada? Or how about Panama? Can anyone derive a rule out of all this that confuses me so much? Help me.
Isn’t that more like the pot calling the kettle black? We have absolutely no reason to go to war with China. And I wish we’d stop talking about war all the time and maybe talk about peace some?
posted by TrueAmerican
“ . . at every miltary planning table in world, just about. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst . . come on, Don, if no one cared what went on in other country, why invent spy planes and reconnaissance aircraft and use them? It is not realistic in this world with IBM's all over the place to NOT know what goes on in other countries. Our very existense may depend on that knowledge. [Edited by Don W]
They [NK] pose a direct threat with their long range missiles (either now, debatable, or in the future, arguably) . .
“ . . and indirect threat through unscrupulous proliferation to terrorists.
If they were no threat, they why do you suppose all the White House, UN and media attention over the past several years? At at a very minimum, they are a direct threat to our allies such as SK . . “
“ . . with the recent Chavez vitriol towards Bush at the UN meeting, it is no secret he will do what he can to undermine this administration. Who knows, he might decide to cut oil exports to the US completely, or something nutzoid like that . . piss off Bush to the point of an attack on Venezuela and opening a whole new can of worms.
Well I would assume that this would be more directed at xpert11, who started the thread. He's asking for reasons why China would go to war with the US, not the other way around, although does it really matter? Any way you slice it, it would not be pretty.